Hazing creates a sense of unity

[Niats 174]

to me, any greek organization that doesn't 'haze' in any way, shape, or form is little more than a club. i know that some activities from all GLOs on my campus would be considered 'hazing' under some people's definitions. but that's what sets us apart from other organizations on campus, and it's what gives us a sense of individuality. if it weren't for varied pledge processes, we would all just be greek. we would have no pride for our individual chapters and it'd make for an overall....boring experience in my eyes

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Niats 174

actually it is quite possible. the whole point of basic training, and pledging for that matter, is to push you to your absolute boundaries....and then some.

So, after you're done pledging, do they ship you off to Iraq?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Niats 174

we would have no pride for our individual chapters and it'd make for an overall....boring experience in my eyes

Are you going to haze your children before you're proud of them??

[Niats 174]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

So, after you're done pledging, do they ship you off to Iraq?

yes, because everyone who goes through basic immediately gets shipped across the pond. /sarc

pledging taught me more in two months than years of high school etc. could ever teach me. i felt different in every way possible - that i was actually ready to start my adult life and (cliche i know) to be a man. i tried to bring the question back to my original point the best i could, troll.

[Niats 174]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Are you going to haze your children before you're proud of them??

haha, again, an response that deals in no way with my original post. next.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Niats 174

troll.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Niats 174

haha, again, an response that deals in no way with my original post. next.

Apparently the point went that way --->


You don't have to have to be hazed to be proud. I'm proud to be an ASA, and an active Alumna, but I wasn't hazed.

[Niats 174]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Apparently the point went that way --->


You don't have to have to be hazed to be proud. I'm proud to be an ASA, and an active Alumna, but I wasn't hazed.

true, but hazing 'can' be beneficial, and i think today we deal with a warped view for what constitutes as hazing. honestly, if you were to look through our manual, you'd look at half of the 'hazing' activities and think to yourself, seriously? my pledge brothers and i are able to look back at all those nights and laugh because they all make sense now.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Niats 174

true, but hazing 'can' be beneficial, and i think today we deal with a warped view for what constitutes as hazing. honestly, if you were to look through our manual, you'd look at half of the 'hazing' activities and think to yourself, seriously? my pledge brothers and i are able to look back at all those nights and laugh because they all make sense now.

Yes, but that kind of "OMG who would actually consider this hazing" is different than "push you to your absolute boundaries....and then some."

And, BTW, discussing your chapter hazing with your fraternity and chapter in your signature makes you a douche. /just sayin'

[Niats 174]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Yes, but that kind of "OMG who would actually consider this hazing" is different than "push you to your absolute boundaries....and then some."

And, BTW, discussing your chapter hazing with your fraternity and chapter in your signature makes you a douche. /just sayin'

like i said, people have an interesting view on what is considered hazing, and i really dont think what i went through was bad enough to call it that. but others would tend to disagree

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

And, BTW, discussing your chapter hazing with your fraternity and chapter in your signature makes you a douche. /just sayin'

'Cuz ya know, Mr. Zippy Zamboni's taking screenshots of everything hazing related (just like he does on Webshots).

If it's not at the HQ's desk in the morning, rest assured it'll be in his gay literotica by midnight!!!

[Niats 174]

ok, risk management complete right? my mistake not turning off the signature

[Niats 174]

so, taking all this into consideration, how would you propose a transition for GLOs to a 'non-hazing' pledge process? and what would it consist of? sorority and fraternity alike, because, as i said earlier, some would view most GLOs on my campus as guilty of hazing.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Niats 174

ok, risk management complete right? my mistake not turning off the signature

The problem is, even if you turn your sig off in this fourm, people already know what GLO/Chapter you are from other posts.

Originally Posted by Niats 174

so, taking all this into consideration, how would you propose a transition for GLOs to a 'non-hazing' pledge process? and what would it consist of? sorority and fraternity alike, because, as i said earlier, some would view most GLOs on my campus as guilty of hazing.

Ok, here's the thing - when you had your chapter in your sig, it showed that your chapter was chartered in 1990. It's not like you've had a "long history of hazing" to transition from. And if your chapter decided they needed to haze because the other chapters on campus haze, then that's just kind of sad.

[Niats 174]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

The problem is, even if you turn your sig off in this fourm, people already know what GLO/Chapter you are from other posts.



Ok, here's the thing - when you had your chapter in your sig, it showed that your chapter was chartered in 1990. It's not like you've had a "long history of hazing" to transition from. And if your chapter decided they needed to haze because the other chapters on campus haze, then that's just kind of sad.

i don't know about other chapters hazing back when we were colonized because none of them are around anymore, but we have very active alumni...i don't know, i don't see others desiring to have a complete overhaul, especially if other chapters don't follow suit