The end of LCAP

[GammaZeta]

"If it is set up a different way, maybe a property management will work as while a land lord, the repairs would be done by the Zeta and not a steweardship. Payments would go to the management and payments made by them.'

THANK YOU! I've only been saying that is the best model for over 2 years now.

LCAP should have been a board of directors, and left the actual management to a property management company.

And Joe, we never blamed you personally for what happened with LCAP/Gamma Zeta. 99.9% of what happened was because of a *ahem* prior *ahem* official of LCAP and his lack of judgment, responsibility and professionalism.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Mooch279

ok this might be dumb but i'm not sure how all the real estate transaction really work. But why would HQ sell them back to the alumni? if in most cases they were holding mortgages, wouldn't it just resort back to them. And can't they get a third party mortgage management firm to look over collecting money and paying the bank until whatever the next iteration of LCAP comes along?

Billy unfortunatily it does not work that way!

The LCAP owns the Paper, - Deed. When it comes time of LCAP demise the deed is paper = money! So since there is no avenue to keep it intact, sell the paper. So then as I see it, the Zetas=Chapters are SOL! "Shit Out Of Luck"!


So, what to do then, sell it! So then what does it do? Hurts Zetas! For those that do not remember, Zetas=Chapters.

gammazeta brings up good points as many do!

So, where in the Hell does it put us as Zetas?

Do We as a International Fraternity back our Members or do they/we not?

Should they be left hanging in the wind? If that is done then why are We Members if We do not cover Our Brothers when we can?

Is it our part as individual who worry about Our Zeta and not others?

We are a total, and I want to see something positive from :Our: IHQ!

[GammaZeta]

Why not for the next year or two, simply bring in a nationwide property management firm to run LCAP properties and just give them the profits?

[Shane Foley]

Originally Posted by LCA_Pi_1298

Tom I would love to help educate the public on how LCAP worked and could work in the future. However, I have been advised that my former employer (the Fraternity and LCAP) is already frustrated over my prior post to this forum. I now work for a service provider to the Fraternity and creating tension puts my new profession in jeopardy. I am therefore forced to return to being a quiet lurker.

I do wish the best to those brothers on this forum that I had the opportunity to work with during my time with the Fraternity - particularly those LCAP clients including Mike Raymond, the Jasons and others at Shippensburg, and even GammaZeta.

Yours in ZAX,

Joe

This is unfortunate! It is not only unfortunate that Joe is not able to share what he knows but also unfortunate that a brother is not able to express himself because the company that he works for has a relationship with Lambda Chi Alpha. Again, I revert back to a previous comment that I made...we need more transparency!

I will not even pretent that I know much about the details of the relationships the LCAP board/management had with chapters. I do know that LCAP put a lot of money into making many of the houses habitable. Joe was on the LCAP board prior to being it CEO and probably knows more about LCAP (the good and bad) that any member of the GHZ or current LCAP board. This statement is not a knock on any of them but rather demonstrates the level of knowledge Joe has. If there are any questions I can answer, I will try.

Shane

[Shane Foley]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

I would also like to hear from Brother Lynn on the Grand High Zeta take on this.

Rest assured that members of the Grand High Zeta read this forum (at least I know they are reading this topic). I must say that GreekChat is probably not the most productive forum in which to discuss issues (real issues) but there does not appear to be a solid forum in which that could occur.

Reverting back to my ELC days...use the power that you have! The GENERAL ASSEMBLY and not the GHZ is the ultimate authority in Lambda Chi Alpha. If you want something to happen or a policy to change, write legislation. If you just want to make a statement regarding how things should happen, write a resolution. Let me use an extreme example, if a mandatory resolution was passed that said GreekChat is the official forum for LCA and a staff member must respond to every posting...it would be a requirement (not that all requirements are currently followed). For the record, I think this would be a silly resolution and the staff would find a way to erase my name from the scrolls if it ever passed.

Shane is now done with his rant.

Shane

[GammaZeta]

"we need more transparency!"

AMEN BROTHER!!!

[GammaZeta]

Have we really exhausted our opinions or ideas on this subject already?

Wow, I guess this board really is slowing down.

[EM1843]

No we've just all heard your opinion about 20 times already.

[GammaZeta]

You're LUCKY to have heard my opinion at all.

I have been correct 99% of the times I have posted. Considering I have almost 1,000 posts, my wisdom has guided LXA's throughout this land in the right direction for the last 4 years.

LXA has become a world class organization because of me, and the brothers that follow my word.

You may have HEARD my opinion, but you haven't LISTENED to my opinion. If you had, LXA would be one brother closer to becoming the best organization in the world. Listen to my message, and you will be a better brother, ready to lead.

[EM1843]

While I believe you have every right to your opinion, Lambda Chi Alpha has become a world class organization inspite of brothers like you. I certainly don't feel that you have contributed more than brothers like George Spasik, Doc Dirghalli, Tozier Brown, Jack Mason, Warren Cole, etc.

Additionally I have heard and listened to your opinion, but I don't feel that you have done the same for the rest of the brothers who post here. Everytime I read one of your posts it has something to do with who you and your chapter were screwed. You seem to have little else to contribute.

[GammaZeta]

You really need to read a little closer.

I have probably contributed more information in my last 100 posts than all of LXA fraternity manuals COMBINED.

Sure, Mason, Cole, etc., contributed to LXA. I'll admit, it was a lot of their hard work and dedication that helped to produce the ultimate Lambda Chi Alpha Brother...me.

I have passed on my knowledge many times, from how to make LXA perfectly diverse, new rules for making our finances available to the brotherhood and even how to run a successful nation-wide recruitment program.

I have given easy, practical solutions to every single LXA problem that has occurred over the past 4 years.

I can't make the blind see again. I can't make the deaf hear again. I can't make a cripple walk again. I can't make LXA follow my correct information and guidelines.

I've given all the answers. Your aggression should not be towards me, but the leaders in our organization that have failed to carry out my words.

Mason wasn't appreciated in his own time, neither was Cole. It is just a matter of time before you start seeing articles in C+C about the three of us, and our lasting legacy on LXA.

[docroc67]

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

You really need to read a little closer.

I have probably contributed more information in my last 100 posts than all of LXA fraternity manuals COMBINED.

Sure, Mason, Cole, etc., contributed to LXA. I'll admit, it was a lot of their hard work and dedication that helped to produce the ultimate Lambda Chi Alpha Brother...me.

I have passed on my knowledge many times, from how to make LXA perfectly diverse, new rules for making our finances available to the brotherhood and even how to run a successful nation-wide recruitment program.

I have given easy, practical solutions to every single LXA problem that has occurred over the past 4 years.

I can't make the blind see again. I can't make the deaf hear again. I can't make a cripple walk again. I can't make LXA follow my correct information and guidelines.

I've given all the answers. Your aggression should not be towards me, but the leaders in our organization that have failed to carry out my words.

Mason wasn't appreciated in his own time, neither was Cole. It is just a matter of time before you start seeing articles in C+C about the three of us, and our lasting legacy on LXA.

Well....

ZUZ

[EM1843]

If I knew of a smiley for beating a dead horse I would post it right now.

[GammaZeta]

If I knew of a smiley for always being right, I would use it every time I post.

Counselor/EM, it's nice to know that you agree with what I post, since the only thing you can attack my arguments with are insults and snide remarks.

[GammaZeta]

So, has any chapters that have been approached by LCAP determined a course of action yet?

How are the different chapters that are affected by this handling the situation?

Any updates?