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Old 09-27-2007, 08:41 AM
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Titchou, I think that she is talking about "Sip and Sees" and not actual recruitment events. In some areas, HS seniors and maybe their parents are invited to events where they get to meet collegiate and alumnae members. They usually take place in the spring.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:44 AM
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I don't think so - we had Spring informal recruitment and only groups that were below total could participate. Typically, 2 out of our 6 wouldn't do informal recruitment, they would just double up on service events.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:56 AM
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lilylover,

i am sorry that you had such a bad experience with recruitment. this is exactly what many of us warn about when a pnm settles on one sorority early in the recruitment process and decides that it is ABC sorority or nothing.
there are too many threads where girls have done this, but on the other hand, there are probably as many stories where girls loved one house, were not invited back to that one, but they kept going and found the place they were truly meant to be.

you had 5 invitations on a six party day-we know that is very good for a competitive recruitment. it's too bad that you did not attend the parties. those groups obviously saw something in you that made them want to invite you back.

is it too late for you to join a sorority at the school you transferred to?
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:52 AM
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She is talking about the recruitment style of houses. At bama chapters have already compiled (or are in the process of compiling) their rush lists for fall 08. Senior and some junior girls in high school are invited to spend the weekend in Tuscaloosa and hang out with the girls in the chapter. They go to band parties, dinner and possibly the game if they can get a ticket. Chapters also have letter-writings during the year and send little notes to pnm's on their rush list just to say hello/congratulate on winning an award/happy birthday/whatever else. Many chapters have started doing "hometown dinners" where 15 or so chapter members go to the hometowns of girls and they all go out to a restaurant together. So for instance all the Birmingham girls being rushed will get together and go to cheesecake factory or pf changs with some of the actives. All of these things are in addition to what someone has called "sip and sees". We just call them teas. This all continues until around May 5 when no contact starts for bama.

I doubt LilyLover has a problem with the actual Spring Recruitment at Bama. I think it's more the recruiting methods of chapters to make girls "love us" before fall recruitment or even their senior year of high school.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:53 AM
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You hit the nail right on the head. Saban defaulted on his contract with us to chase the NFL which didn't work out for him so he goes to an SEC rival! Where I come from that's called a traitor. Sure...LSU is doing just fine without him. We LOVE our coach, Les Miles....I think he is just as good or better than Saban, but that doesn't get Saban off the hook!!!

You mean you couldn't tell what a traitor $aban was based on the way he bailed his previous team when he came to LSU? $aban is all about money...his only loyalty is to the almighty dollar.

Any program who hires $aban should know that they should take what they can from him during his brief stay there, because he's going to bail at the first call of a larger salary. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, I suppose, as long as the university understands that going in.)

$aban has been stating for years that his dream was to coach in the NFL - if he ever gets another NFL opportunity (which is questionable, of course, based on his performance at Miami), he wouldn't hesitate to bail on 'Bama. Its just the way he operates - he's not the kind of guy who will stay long term anywhere and build a program.

(And yes, I know people who are personally acquainted with him.)
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:21 AM
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Wow, I just find that so interesting... as someone who has only ever seen/been in/worked with recruitment at schools in the north, that whole process of starting with juniors in high school and basically "rushing" women for years before they're even in college is amazing! I honestly can't see it "flying" at any of the places I've been involved in, but wow, the idea of "grooming" your own NM classes before they're even enrolled, now THAT'S pro-active recruiting!!!
Interesting...correct.

Maybe I'm in a snarky mood today, but I think what is described in this type of recruitment creates more stereotypes of the Greek System. It's almost archaic.

I would be much more proud to be Greek in a school that advertises like MIT Panhel (another thread) and focuses on the future careers and intelligence of their women.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:00 AM
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She is talking about the recruitment style of houses. At bama chapters have already compiled (or are in the process of compiling) their rush lists for fall 08. Senior and some junior girls in high school are invited to spend the weekend in Tuscaloosa and hang out with the girls in the chapter. They go to band parties, dinner and possibly the game if they can get a ticket. Chapters also have letter-writings during the year and send little notes to pnm's on their rush list just to say hello/congratulate on winning an award/happy birthday/whatever else. Many chapters have started doing "hometown dinners" where 15 or so chapter members go to the hometowns of girls and they all go out to a restaurant together. So for instance all the Birmingham girls being rushed will get together and go to cheesecake factory or pf changs with some of the actives. All of these things are in addition to what someone has called "sip and sees". We just call them teas. This all continues until around May 5 when no contact starts for bama.

I doubt LilyLover has a problem with the actual Spring Recruitment at Bama. I think it's more the recruiting methods of chapters to make girls "love us" before fall recruitment or even their senior year of high school.
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Wow, I just find that so interesting... as someone who has only ever seen/been in/worked with recruitment at schools in the north, that whole process of starting with juniors in high school and basically "rushing" women for years before they're even in college is amazing! I honestly can't see it "flying" at any of the places I've been involved in, but wow, the idea of "grooming" your own NM classes before they're even enrolled, now THAT'S pro-active recruiting!!!
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Interesting...correct.

Maybe I'm in a snarky mood today, but I think what is described in this type of recruitment creates more stereotypes of the Greek System. It's almost archaic.

I would be much more proud to be Greek in a school that advertises like MIT Panhel (another thread) and focuses on the future careers and intelligence of their women.
Well, when you think about it (and I know James would agree with me if he read this) they really have gone along with the terminology change and are "recruiting." They target women they want to have as sisters and do things to make themselves appealing to them. They focus their efforts on the people who they think will be the best fit and do the most for their group.

It's only a problem because there are women who aren't "recruited" who think that everyone comes into rush on a level playing field.

I think this goes on in all chapters to some extent with HS girls, just maybe not in this "official" or organized of a manner.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:07 AM
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I have a question about all this....how is this not considered dirty rushing?
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:11 AM
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I have a question about all this....how is this not considered dirty rushing?
How are chapters still spending thousands of dollars on rush parties when all of NPC were supposed to go "no frills" 10+ years ago? How is there such a blatant tier system that it has a NAME?

It's a part of that campus's culture and I'm guessing that anyone who said anything against it would suffer far worse consequences than the sorority that they reported.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:16 AM
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I have a question about all this....how is this not considered dirty rushing?
It depends on the collegiate panhellenic's recruitment rules and how these things are conducted.

On one campus, it may be OK to send notes to PMs on behalf of ABC or XYZ chapter. On another campus, notes are written only on behalf of the collegiate panhellenic.

As for the hometown dinners, as long as the members don't talk about their sorority, it's OK. Somewhere else it may be OK only if two or three groups get together.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:05 PM
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I don't think this would fly at my school, even though they go silent after h.s. graduation, I think they would still consider it dirty rushing at my school. It seemed like panhel wanted everyone on a level playing ground for formal recruitment, even if they knew everyone wasn't. I know in my chapter we were asked to talk to girls coming in as freshman - but only if we knew them (So and so's cousin is going to go to our school next year, go ahead and see if she'll be going through recruitment in the fall, etc.)

Although, I have to say, it is pretty smart to go ahead and take the time to recruit the women your chapter really wants and would be a good fit - but still seems a little sneaky to me... although, large companies do it to college juniors and seniors all the time (Club Car recruiting at VA Tech for example) so I guess it makes a lot of sense in the long run!
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:30 PM
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I'm really surprised that most of you didn't know about all the very early recruiting at Bama. It's all about having your ear to the ground and getting to know PNMs as early as possible. Alabama high-schoolers typically pick their Auburn/Alabama allegiances early, and it's usually known years ahead of time that these girls will be coming to Bama and want to rush.

In addition, many sororities have "core" high schools that they recruit out of, and alums send in recs early and often. And most chapters do require a rec, if not more than one, to be on their lawn on Bid Day, even if that goes against their respective national policies. This is why the "typical" Southern sororities and the more established chapters continue to do well, because they already have huge underground Junior League-style networks of alums who keep tabs on prospective PNMs.

Most of what lillylover says is true, though she obviously got her heart set on an Old Row sorority, and once she was cut from those, it was all over in her eyes. I'm sure she would have had a much better time at Bama had she pledged one of those 5 houses she had left, but she dug her own grave on that. Lilly's comments really underscore the fact that most Bama PNMs do not keep their options open.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:34 PM
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She is talking about the recruitment style of houses. At bama chapters have already compiled (or are in the process of compiling) their rush lists for fall 08. Senior and some junior girls in high school are invited to spend the weekend in Tuscaloosa and hang out with the girls in the chapter. They go to band parties, dinner and possibly the game if they can get a ticket. Chapters also have letter-writings during the year and send little notes to pnm's on their rush list just to say hello/congratulate on winning an award/happy birthday/whatever else. Many chapters have started doing "hometown dinners" where 15 or so chapter members go to the hometowns of girls and they all go out to a restaurant together. So for instance all the Birmingham girls being rushed will get together and go to cheesecake factory or pf changs with some of the actives. All of these things are in addition to what someone has called "sip and sees". We just call them teas. This all continues until around May 5 when no contact starts for bama.

I doubt LilyLover has a problem with the actual Spring Recruitment at Bama. I think it's more the recruiting methods of chapters to make girls "love us" before fall recruitment or even their senior year of high school.

YES this is exactly what i'm talking about. my own mother was asked to give tea's when i was a junior and senior in highschool for her alumnae sorority. talk abotu a slap in my mom's face when they dropped me.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:37 PM
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YES this is exactly what i'm talking about. my own mother was asked to give tea's when i was a junior and senior in highschool for her alumnae sorority. talk abotu a slap in my mom's face when they dropped me.
It doesn't matter WHO your mother is...recruitment is about YOU. Being a legacy may get you a second look, but it won't automatically get you a bid. You're talking about a school that could fill probably 2 pledge classes with legacies.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:39 PM
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Is this statement appropriate?

it's not whether it's appropriate, it's just a statement and true fact i was making. someone asked who old row was and i told them.
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