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08-30-2007, 10:12 AM
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This is bullshit, and I think that for the majority of people who are obese, it all comes down to making choices. You don't even have to make tough choices - like switching from regular to diet pop, or chips to pretzles. Small things do matter. Even just going from a Venti Latte at starbucks to a tall makes a difference!
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I agree with all that. Even such a little thing as not drink any pop/soda at all can help you lose.
My personal trainer was doing the easiest exercises with me and they really helped to tone and decrease body fat percentages. I thought it was hilarious that when I was dieting, I lost maybe 2lbs. When I went back to eating whatever I want, in smaller portions, I lost 5lbs, and continue to losing more.
I don't totally disagree with this association though. There were times where I've gotten passed up for a job because of my looks. And no, I didn't assume. A friend of mine who'd worked there told me and was pissed by it. And if a person is healthy and overweight, they shouldn't have to be passed up for a job is they could do it better than a good-looking skinny person.
Oh and people need to get off the thought that you can't be overweight and healthy. If I could post my latest bloodwork and full physical reports, you'd never know that I'm the weight I am. The most unhealthy thing about me is the mild arthritis I have in my wrists and knees. Part of that is hereditary, and part is from playing sports that are damaging to these parts.
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08-30-2007, 10:45 AM
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I don't disagree that being fat is not healthy...however, studies also show that someone who exercises regularly and eats decently healthy, but is still overweight, can be healthier than a skinny person who sits around and eats junk food all day.
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This is somewhat misleading, though - being "more healthy" than someone with an abhorrent lifestyle is not the same thing as having overall good health, you know?
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Oh and people need to get off the thought that you can't be overweight and healthy. If I could post my latest bloodwork and full physical reports, you'd never know that I'm the weight I am. The most unhealthy thing about me is the mild arthritis I have in my wrists and knees. Part of that is hereditary, and part is from playing sports that are damaging to these parts.
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Don't you think your knees would respond to treatment a little better with less weight? In fact, most knee and leg issues are affected by changes in weight, some quite drastically. There's some homeostatic effects here, too - a holistic element, and while you can be overweight and not in poor health, all of us should strive for a healthy weight and lifestyle.
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08-30-2007, 11:57 AM
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Oh and people need to get off the thought that you can't be overweight and healthy. If I could post my latest bloodwork and full physical reports, you'd never know that I'm the weight I am. The most unhealthy thing about me is the mild arthritis I have in my wrists and knees. Part of that is hereditary, and part is from playing sports that are damaging to these parts.
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I agree. My bloodwork and physical reports always state I'm in good health.
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08-30-2007, 12:00 PM
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You can't obese and healthy. Overweight is not obese, so I wouldn't say an overweight person is overall unhealthy, but I would say that said person is at serious medical risk and should take propper precautions.
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08-30-2007, 05:28 PM
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Don't you think your knees would respond to treatment a little better with less weight? In fact, most knee and leg issues are affected by changes in weight, some quite drastically. There's some homeostatic effects here, too - a holistic element, and while you can be overweight and not in poor health, all of us should strive for a healthy weight and lifestyle.
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Very true and my weight has made it worse, but it started when I was 15 and at a decent weight. I guess I've had problems ever since I was born since I was born with bow legs (sp?) and my great aunt tied my knees together in an attempt to fix them. Apparently this was a thing they used to do.
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08-30-2007, 09:16 PM
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Blood work is always good until its bad . .. Your body tries to maintain a homeostasis.
So in a sense its "bad" even before it shows in a test. And bad usually equals accumulated damage on a micro level.
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I agree. My bloodwork and physical reports always state I'm in good health.
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08-30-2007, 11:27 PM
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Seriously the first thing that came to mind.
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09-01-2007, 09:52 AM
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This is somewhat misleading, though - being "more healthy" than someone with an abhorrent lifestyle is not the same thing as having overall good health, you know?
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This is absolutely true.
Being healthy isn't about other people. It's about YOU. Almost by definition, you, at a lower weight - with all your habits and choices remaining the same - would be healthier. The "lighter you" would be at decreased risks for Diabetes, for coronary artery disease, for degenerative joint disease, for high blood pressure, and so on. Further, if you notice, I keep talking about future complications and risks. At this exact moment, you may have perfect exams and lab work, but that won't last forever - even in the healthiest, ideal weight individuals. But if you're carrying around extra weight, your relative risk is increased to start having major disease processes take place.
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09-01-2007, 10:11 AM
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After losing weight and keeping it off, I threw out my back and then had to rest for 6 weeks after surgery. I am now back in the swing of things, watching what I eat and working out every #$%& day. My bloodwork now is great - but I know that the extra 20 lbs. will eventually cause problems. So as much as I hate the work required, I know that I have to get back into shape. Accepting my fat self is not an option - it would be an exercise in self-delusion.
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09-01-2007, 07:14 PM
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while some of their aims seem interesting and worthwhile, this one is great:
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* Empower the large number of people regarded by the medical profession as "obese" to accept themselves, to live more fulfilling lives, and to promote acceptance of fat people within society.
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1. NO ONE noticed that glaring pun before it went live?
2. right, cause we fatties just sit around watching the Price is Right eating Twinkies and trying to hoist ourselves out of bed? oh, we don't go out for fun, or have jobs...
3. this reminds me of the "fat" sorority... well, it looks like they can have a philantrophy they can identify with...
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