Mom, 20, giving birth to third set of twins

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by REE1993

LOL @ "latest set".

This may stir up some controversy, but I think that China might be onto something in terms of population control. At least. as far as public support/welfare goes.

Now is a bad time to look to China. They are paying people to have kids right now. lol

But in regards to this story...all I can say is wow And ask what a previous poster did and that is why is the man not working?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by darling1

i think most insurance companies will pay for a vesectomy but not the reversal.

but to respond to the original thread, i find it disgusting that this woman and others like her are popping out children like its ok.

her ob should have 'made' her get the tubal ligation.

Thanks for taking us back to the dark ages.

[REE1993]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

ok, after the first set of twins there should have been some tubes being tied. especially at that young age. the second set? girl, ya got miracle-gro in your veins...use everything on the market for protection!

FYI doctors will RARELY perform a tubal ligation on a 20-year old unless there is a very strong medical reason.

[OneTimeSBX]

true, i know in some cases they will only do it past a certain age or # of children...and in this case i think she had hit the minimum needed a couple of years ago! regardless, she should still know all her other options. if you have 2 sets of twins, get on birth control and get pregnant again, well, that just was meant to be...

[Educatingblue]

Originally Posted by REE1993

FYI doctors will RARELY perform a tubal ligation on a 20-year old unless there is a very strong medical reason.

True. The sad thing in her case is she has ALL of those children and no husband. What if she finds Mr. Right and he wants his own children

[nikki1920]

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl

Indeed it is controversial, but why would someone think it's a good idea to have more children if they can't afford the ones they already have? There has to be a better way for our government, or some power that be, to handle this. I do know in some states, if you have another child while on cash assistance within a certain time frame, they will not add on that next child to your welfare check. At least that's a step in the right direction, although that child still is entitled to Food Stamps (they're two different programs).

You are correct. If you have a child (birth or adoption) after receiving a check for 10 months, that child (and future children) will not be added to your case. More babies doesn't equal more money. That's a welfare reform change effective August 22, 1996 (can ya tell I work for social services?).


I hate seeing my clients come in pregnant AGAIN, with baby #3,4,5 or higher. I'm struggling with my one, and have help from her dad. sheesh..

A box of 12 rubbers is $3.75 at wal mart and are free at the health department. sheesh.

[OneTimeSBX]

^^^AMEN TO THAT NIKKI!

there is a huge difference between those families on Discovery who have 17 kids, and the one who lives on 100% state support. the biggest difference? it always seems to me that the families on Discovery always planned for 17 kids, i.e Dad has a super paying job, they buy/build a huge house, they are skilled at organizing and budgeting, and they stop when they reach the desired number...

...these girls now? they breathe in too hard and pop out kids. they arent planned for, who has more than 3 kids in a 2 bedroom apartment if they can help it? who wants to go on state assistance if they can help it? it has got to be a miserable feeling...

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Educatingblue

True. The sad thing in her case is she has ALL of those children and no husband. What if she finds Mr. Right and he wants his own children

Then he is not Mister Right!

[darling1]

i believe in reproductive freedom but jeez, there is something called personal responsibility. we are not talking about someone who is having children by the same man. this woman can't keep her legs closed. theoretically i would much rather 'pay' for her tubal ligation then pay for her wic and food stamps.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Thanks for taking us back to the dark ages.

[darling1]

now that family is such the exception!! ive seen their story a few times on discovery and i am always amazed at how she and her husband do it.

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

^^^AMEN TO THAT NIKKI!

there is a huge difference between those families on Discovery who have 17 kids, and the one who lives on 100% state support. the biggest difference? it always seems to me that the families on Discovery always planned for 17 kids, i.e Dad has a super paying job, they buy/build a huge house, they are skilled at organizing and budgeting, and they stop when they reach the desired number...

...these girls now? they breathe in too hard and pop out kids. they arent planned for, who has more than 3 kids in a 2 bedroom apartment if they can help it? who wants to go on state assistance if they can help it? it has got to be a miserable feeling...

[darling1]

can u repeat this please!!!! lol

Originally Posted by nikki1920

You are correct. If you have a child (birth or adoption) after receiving a check for 10 months, that child (and future children) will not be added to your case. More babies doesn't equal more money. That's a welfare reform change effective August 22, 1996 (can ya tell I work for social services?).


I hate seeing my clients come in pregnant AGAIN, with baby #3,4,5 or higher. I'm struggling with my one, and have help from her dad. sheesh..

A box of 12 rubbers is $3.75 at wal mart and are free at the health department. sheesh.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by REE1993

FYI doctors will RARELY perform a tubal ligation on a 20-year old unless there is a very strong medical reason.

What would be the strong medical reason - cancer? Multiple sclerosis? Insanity?

I ask because of someone I know who has an 18 year old gorgeous daughter whose parents have been told that she will never been capable of living alone. She will always be either under her parents' or the state's care. She is incapable of saying no - yet to look at her, you'd never know that she was mentally handicapped.

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

^^^AMEN TO THAT NIKKI!

there is a huge difference between those families on Discovery who have 17 kids, and the one who lives on 100% state support. the biggest difference? it always seems to me that the families on Discovery always planned for 17 kids, i.e Dad has a super paying job, they buy/build a huge house, they are skilled at organizing and budgeting, and they stop when they reach the desired number...

...these girls now? they breathe in too hard and pop out kids. they arent planned for, who has more than 3 kids in a 2 bedroom apartment if they can help it? who wants to go on state assistance if they can help it? it has got to be a miserable feeling...

IMHO, comparing this unmarried, unemployed, incapable of keeping her knees together child to the not the norm, but stable in their own way, Duggars is comparing apples to oranges.


BTW, my gggrandparents had 3 sets of twins, along with 9 other children. Of the ones who lived, all but two went to college, and either law or medical school. Of course, that was 100 years ago, so it was fairly normal then.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by honeychile

IMHO, comparing this unmarried, unemployed, incapable of keeping her knees together child to the not the norm, but stable in their own way, Duggars is comparing apples to oranges.

I'd have to agree with you, h*c. While I do think the Duggars are a tad...uh..."odd", they seem to know what they are getting themselves into and plan accordingly: buy 2nd hand clothes, they have a family support system in place, etc.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by darling1

now that family is such the exception!! ive seen their story a few times on discovery and i am always amazed at how she and her husband do it.

It's like throwing a hot dog down a hallway.

[darling1]

PM_Mama can I use that phrase...lol