Grade risks

[alum]

With all due respect, I think you're stereotyping all the tier 1 schools as the same where ABC is top at all Ivies and XYZ is bottom.

Truth is, "everyone" knows that the Core Four at Duke do not happen to be the same groups at Yale. I can't speak for all (or any) Tier 1 schools or GLOs but as they say, mileage may vary.

PNMs may have different arbitrary cuts other than their hs GPAs/SAT scores. Many of the schools that FootballFan mentions have deferred rush so that fall freshman grades and activities can be added to the evaluations.

[Football Fan]

Alum,
There was no mention of any "core" sororities in any of the previous posts. I knew those universities had Greek groups and thought it would be of interest to receive comments about recruitment where grades would not be such a major factor. I have no idea what GLOs are even on those campuses. I selected them by taking the page of university rankings from my old copy of U.S. News & World Report and picking colleges I knew had a Greek system. If I missed Yale it was because I was unaware Yale had any GLOs other than fraternities.

[FuzzieAlum]

Football Fan, Vandy has deferred rush, so they're not going off of high school grades as much as first semester grades. And I'm sure we all know that the first semester can be rough on a lot of folks!

[mystikchick]

Originally Posted by Football Fan

Alum,
If I missed Yale it was because I was unaware Yale had any GLOs other than fraternities.

if i'm not mistaken, one of the bush twins was a theta there? they also have pi phi and KKG

sororities play quiet role in Greek renaissance

[DeltaBetaBaby]

At UIUC, you apply to a college, not the university as a whole (e.g. engineering, liberal arts and sciences, fine and applied arts), and the requirements were different for each one. In fact, some people would apply to one, get rejected, and re-apply to another. If a PNM came through who was majoring in engineering, we usually thought "great, she must be very smart to get into a competitive college," not "oh, engineering is hard, she will bring our GPA down". I have a feeling that CotH's experience is an isolated one.

To the OP, there may be a chapter or two on your campus that make very few cuts because their numbers are down. If so, those will be the chapters most likely to take a grade risk, because a girl with a low GPA may be better than no girl at all. The question will be whether you are a good fit for one of those chapters.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by alum

With all due respect, I think you're stereotyping all the tier 1 schools as the same where ABC is top at all Ivies and XYZ is bottom.

Truth is, "everyone" knows that the Core Four at Duke do not happen to be the same groups at Yale. I can't speak for all (or any) Tier 1 schools or GLOs but as they say, mileage may vary.

PNMs may have different arbitrary cuts other than their hs GPAs/SAT scores. Many of the schools that FootballFan mentions have deferred rush so that fall freshman grades and activities can be added to the evaluations.

What are you using as a classifying factor for a tier? The Princeton Review?

[susan314]

Originally Posted by alum

I am truly shocked that in this day and age women are automatically cut for majoring in engineering/hard science/cs/math. Even in my day as an undergrad, non-Mickey Mouse major women pledged all the sororities on my campus.

Perhaps you didn't mean it the way it sounds, but I find your comment about "Mickey Mouse" majors to be offensive. You could have simply continued your original phrasing and referenced the engineering/hard science majors without using such a pejorative term regarding other programs of study.

[ChildoftheHorn]

As far as top 20 schools go, I think most of them have Rush in the Winter.

The grade issue at some schools may not be an issue if the university does not grade differently from school to school. Here, it is an issue.

[Ocalagirl]

Originally Posted by ZTAngel

You're rushing at UCF, right?

no a different undisclosed school.

[AGDLynn]

The problem with grade risks is that if that person continues to make low grades, that one low grade can bring down the chapter's GPA, reducing the effect of the 4.0's.

Don't forget, he/she probably won't be the only grade problem in the chapter.

It can be disheartening when most of the members are trying very hard to keep their grades up and there are a few members who couldn't care less.

[KSUViolet06]

Something else for you to think about:

Some chapters, depending on their local or national policies, are simply not permitted (by their HQ, advisors, etc) to extend bids to girls who don't meet the GPA requirement, regardless of circumstance.

[PenguinTrax]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

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Informals are really the way to go in your case.

If Informals are an option, I would consider it. Groups tend to be more lax at that time with that sort of thing.

Except if the campus is as competitive as stated, COB may not occur during the first semester. She is already an upperclassman, so waiting until second semester COB will limit her even further.

[adpiucf]

I think we've given ocalagirl some realistic advice and she's prepared. Enjoy your new university this fall!!! Are you living on campus?

[IvySpice]

I became "Les Sous Fideles"

I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but I had a bit of a chuckle here; you wrote that you became "the Under-Loyals."

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by susan314

Perhaps you didn't mean it the way it sounds, but I find your comment about "Mickey Mouse" majors to be offensive. You could have simply continued your original phrasing and referenced the engineering/hard science majors without using such a pejorative term regarding other programs of study.

Agree.