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02-08-2007, 12:10 AM
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In what way is it handled differently today than it was then?
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Are you serious? Are you really going to argue over whether medical research has changed over 30 some odd years??? Its sounds like you don't think it has.
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02-08-2007, 12:56 AM
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I work at the capitol and this is all I hear about these days. I think the biggest reason that there is opposition to Perry's executive order is that a lot of right wingers think that the vaccine will promote premarital sex. A nice quote I heard in response to that was, "if we developed a vaccine for lung cancer, would we block it because it would promote smoking?". I'm sure this will reach the Texas Supreme Court and overturn the executive order, because technically the Governor is supposed to enforce the laws that the legislature makes, not create his own.
I hope it isn't overturned. One of the biggest reasons for it, is to force parents to educate themselves on this subject. It's ultimately the parent’s choice if the child is vaccinated or not.
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02-08-2007, 10:03 AM
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I work at the capitol and this is all I hear about these days. I think the biggest reason that there is opposition to Perry's executive order is that a lot of right wingers think that the vaccine will promote premarital sex. A nice quote I heard in response to that was, "if we developed a vaccine for lung cancer, would we block it because it would promote smoking?". I'm sure this will reach the Texas Supreme Court and overturn the executive order, because technically the Governor is supposed to enforce the laws that the legislature makes, not create his own.
I hope it isn't overturned. One of the biggest reasons for it, is to force parents to educate themselves on this subject. It's ultimately the parent’s choice if the child is vaccinated or not.
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Idiotic thinking. Kids aren't going to not have sex just cause you don't talk about it. They're just gonna have unsafe and unprotected sex cause no one has given them information.
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02-08-2007, 11:55 AM
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Here is my take on this which I have thus left out because I am in the minority. I am not getting the vaccine. I am within the age bracket to get it but I have decided not to.
When I was 10 years old, I got my routine MMR vaccine. A day later I came down with an illness-we're not sure if it was rubella or not; either way it was a very bad reaction to the shot. I was off school for almost two weeks. I have never had a measles shot ever since. I have not had a meningitis shot. I have had Hep B. Since my bad reaction and because we have no idea what caused the reaction (which 1 in 100,000 people get) I am duly wary of new vaccines. I cannot afford another reaction to a vaccination when I don't know what caused the first reaction. While the vaccination is still voluntary, I'm not getting it.
This just goes to show that no matter how safe something is, someone somewhere will react badly. But this is no reason not to get the shot. If you've never reacted badly to a vaccine, I think you should get the shot. The good outweighs the bad for most people with this vaccination.
Also, BA, I believe you missed a drug. It wasn't well-publicized. Allegra-D was taken off the market. I took one dose of that drug and wound up in the emergency room at 3am, uncontrollable twitching, dizziness and racing heart. It took a liter of fluid to dispel the drug from my system. I heard of at least one other person with a reaction like that.
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02-08-2007, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jubilance1922
Idiotic thinking. Kids aren't going to not have sex just cause you don't talk about it. They're just gonna have unsafe and unprotected sex cause no one has given them information.
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Cosign that.
What is it with parents thinking that kids wouldn't figure this whole sex thing out themselves? Tab A goes into Slot B. It's not that complex and we've been doing it since before civilization. I'm pretty sure sex ed. isn't responsible for the re-discovery of sex in each generation.
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ere is my take on this which I have thus left out because I am in the minority. I am not getting the vaccine. I am within the age bracket to get it but I have decided not to.
When I was 10 years old, I got my routine MMR vaccine. A day later I came down with an illness-we're not sure if it was rubella or not; either way it was a very bad reaction to the shot. I was off school for almost two weeks. I have never had a measles shot ever since. I have not had a meningitis shot. I have had Hep B. Since my bad reaction and because we have no idea what caused the reaction (which 1 in 100,000 people get) I am duly wary of new vaccines. I cannot afford another reaction to a vaccination when I don't know what caused the first reaction. While the vaccination is still voluntary, I'm not getting it.
This just goes to show that no matter how safe something is, someone somewhere will react badly. But this is no reason not to get the shot. If you've never reacted badly to a vaccine, I think you should get the shot. The good outweighs the bad for most people with this vaccination.
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I don't think you're in the minority with regards to your opinion. I'd never think about requiring this for someone with an unknown reaction to vaccines. I think it's a good thing to "require" it but leave a way out that requires a bit more effort.
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02-08-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jubilance1922
Idiotic thinking. Kids aren't going to not have sex just cause you don't talk about it. They're just gonna have unsafe and unprotected sex cause no one has given them information.
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Right. It's not like kids are using condoms to protect against HPV and cervical cancer. They're thinking about pregnancy, AIDS, Chl., Ghon., and those other diseases. A lot of them probably don't even know what HPV is, because it's never talked about. A vaccine against HPV will not change their sex habits, because frankly, I don't know if young people really cared about it that much in the first place.
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02-08-2007, 08:59 PM
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Are you serious? Are you really going to argue over whether medical research has changed over 30 some odd years??? Its sounds like you don't think it has.
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02-08-2007, 10:35 PM
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I think Vioxx was GREAT - I would have had to give up a lot of activities were it not for Vioxx. Celebrex was not as good at all.
I'm getting the vaccine.
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02-08-2007, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin
I think Vioxx was GREAT - I would have had to give up a lot of activities were it not for Vioxx. Celebrex was not as good at all.
I'm getting the vaccine.
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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02-08-2007, 11:53 PM
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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Why, because I took drugs for pain management that allowed me to be a college athlete? Yeah, okay.
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02-09-2007, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin
Why, because I took drugs for pain management that allowed me to be a college athlete? Yeah, okay.
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Crap.......I clicked the wrong post.......that was intended for the Old Haggard who claimed that I was infatuated with her. So sorry.
.....on a side.......I took Celebrex also......great stuff, especially in football and baseball season.
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02-09-2007, 02:45 AM
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I stongly agree with this statement and if I had kids, I wouldn't even think twice about getting them vaccinated.
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02-09-2007, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by macallan25
Crap.......I clicked the wrong post.......that was intended for the Old Haggard who claimed that I was infatuated with her. So sorry.
.....on a side.......I took Celebrex also......great stuff, especially in football and baseball season.
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Awww.. thanks! 
See.. it's like the little boy who dips the girl's braids into the inkwell. They do it for attention. I knew you had a crush on me! It's just too cute for words!
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02-09-2007, 09:34 AM
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Macallan has a crush on me. He follows me around like a little puppy dog. I think it's so cute! 
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02-09-2007, 09:47 AM
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Said the pot.
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Oh, absolutely.. it's definately mutual!
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