"Southern" Sororities?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

"Directional" means they're Northern, Southern, Northwestern, SouthEastern, etc... and is a negative term.

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I don't think its that negative...at least wrongfully so. I hear it most often when people are talking about a weak college football schedule...for example "who is Bama playing?"---"Some Mississippi directional school."

Gotcha. I hadn't heard that term before.

I learned somethin' new today, Ma.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

If your point is that not everyone acts the way me or macallan or whoever do, that is completely understandable, but often I feel people are trying to sway other's image of the South with a portrayal I don't think is accurate.

I think it's important to remember as well that there is not a monolithic Southern "way," "experience" or "image." What is generally true in Alabama, Mississippi or Georgia may not be generally true in the Carolinas or Virginia (not counting Northern Virginia. ) Likewise, the lay of things may be different still in Kentucky or Louisiana.

UNC and UVa are unquestionably Southern Schools, but with a rather different Southern Culture, I would expect, than say Ole Miss or Bama.

FWIW.

[shinerbock]

I agree, but I really don't think greek life is that different among the top fraternities at Bama and UVA. Both would probably consist of wealthy and well educated students, although on a slightly different scale. My point is that on big campuses, the best (I know people on here are against tiers, but they exist) fraternities are generally wealthy and conservative. Also, I'm not really sure how many people would include KY or VA schools into "southern greek life," although I do think it is generally the same. Granted at UNC or UVA the best fraternities may be only 75 percent republican as opposed to 98 percent republican at Auburn or UGA, but the commonality remains, I think. My problem with this is more an annoyance than anything, I just don't like having to continually clarify that when I say "on big southern campuses" or "top southern greek schools" I don't mean UCF, Emory, or East Carolina.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Very little, but that hardly means it was correct.

Huh? So what was your tangent about again?

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

You never said you weren't.

RIF.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

You're probably some ridiculous major like social work or african-american studies.

I'm not a bright-eyed, bushy-tailed young co-ed like you are.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

This is true.

I believe that using male-centered language does perpetuate a male-dominated society.. when you hear male-centered words for your whole life, it affects you, even if you don't realize it.

Although, I don't make an issue of it when I hear someone use that kind of language. I try not to, myself, but whatever. I have bigger fish to fry.

Some of us build careers out of frying different size fish at the same time.

(It's the seemingly "small things" that have the biggest impact on society.)

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

You're probably some ridiculous major like social work or african-american studies.

shut up

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl

shut up

Why are you so silly?

[shinerbock]

Like what, pray tell.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I agree, but I really don't think greek life is that different among the top fraternities at Bama and UVA. Both would probably consist of wealthy and well educated students, although on a slightly different scale. My point is that on big campuses, the best (I know people on here are against tiers, but they exist) fraternities are generally wealthy and conservative. Also, I'm not really sure how many people would include KY or VA schools into "southern greek life," although I do think it is generally the same. Granted at UNC or UVA the best fraternities may be only 75 percent republican as opposed to 98 percent republican at Auburn or UGA, but the commonality remains, I think. My problem with this is more an annoyance than anything, I just don't like having to continually clarify that when I say "on big southern campuses" or "top southern greek schools" I don't mean UCF, Emory, or East Carolina.

It seems like you're picking out schools in the South which already fit your idea of what is "proper" Southern Greek life, and then determining based on those schools what Southern Greek life is like. Maybe that's the reason when you mention the term, you have to clarify what you mean - the rest of us are using a larger, more representative sample to get our idea. Perhaps if you used a more specific term, you wouldn't have to go back and clarify. To me, UCF, Emory, and East Carolina are all pretty firmly in the South last time I looked at a map, and their Greek systems seem just fine.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Why are you so silly?

Because I majored in something ridiculous like social work.

[shinerbock]

Well, you're obviously going to disagree with me, for whatever reason. However, I think it'd be tough to make a case that Emory or UCF has the storied tradition of Alabama or UGA. The fact is that many on here won't recognize that the big southern schools have a different type of greek life that is distinctive from that in other regions, or from other schools with lesser reputations. You can say, oh, Emory has great greek life, but the facts simply don't allow a proper comparison between them and a school like Ole Miss or Auburn. Many more students are involved in these schools, they have huge houses and even bigger operating budgets, famous alumni, etc...I'm not seeking out examples to fit my mold of what southern greek life is, the schools I refer to are the cornerstones of southern greek life. Of course you can believe what you want, but when a person on ESPN makes a comment about southern sorority girls, they're generally not referring to Emory or UT-Chatt., or Western Kentucky...

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, you're obviously going to disagree with me, for whatever reason. However, I think it'd be tough to make a case that Emory or UCF has the storied tradition of Alabama or UGA. The fact is that many on here won't recognize that the big southern schools have a different type of greek life that is distinctive from that in other regions, or from other schools with lesser reputations. You can say, oh, Emory has great greek life, but the facts simply don't allow a proper comparison between them and a school like Ole Miss or Auburn. Many more students are involved in these schools, they have huge houses and even bigger operating budgets, famous alumni, etc...I'm not seeking out examples to fit my mold of what southern greek life is, the schools I refer to are the cornerstones of southern greek life. Of course you can believe what you want, but when a person on ESPN makes a comment about southern sorority girls, they're generally not referring to Emory or UT-Chatt., or Western Kentucky...

Why would someone on ESPN refer to southern sorority girls? Unless they are airing some schools powder puff finals or something, it seems really irrelevant.

[shinerbock]

Apparently you don't watch very much college football. Every time they come to the south for a mega-college football game, they generally mention sorority girls and fraternity guys, how they dress up for games, etc.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Apparently you don't watch very much college football. Every time they come to the south for a mega-college football game, they generally mention sorority girls and fraternity guys, how they dress up for games, etc.

It's still pretty irrelevant. I watch college football for football, not for an offhand comment about some tool in a tie grilling some stuff. Anyway, the best SEC games are on CBS anyway.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

My point is that on big campuses, the best (I know people on here are against tiers, but they exist) fraternities are generally wealthy and conservative. . . . . Granted at UNC or UVA the best fraternities may be only 75 percent republican as opposed to 98 percent republican at Auburn or UGA, but the commonality remains, I think.

I think you might be surprised.