What can be done to help smaller GLO's?

[Little E]

Duquesne is a great campus. We were there for our summer Officer Academy and the school was very friendly to us. They gave us a great welcome, whoever colonizes there will be lucky. The school said they are very open to greek life.

I do have to admit, I'd love to see another PA AST chapter.

edited for clarity

[AGDee]

We also have a chapter at Duquesne and we have 9 chapters in PA total. It is tied with Michigan for most Alpha Gam chapters in a state.

[Tom Earp]

Denise_DPhiE


I think You will find that that most NIC require at least a 25 person group to even think about a group for Colonization.

A lot of course will depend on the size of the School. Un. Incarnet Word in San Antonio became a Colony of LXA and were Chartered within the minimul time frame.

NC A&T (HBC School) was Colonized by LXA. I was on the Committee to say Yea or Nay whether to keep in Colony Status for one more year. They had 3 Members at Gen. Assem. Last Year. Actually, a New Associate and two Young Men who paid their way to come and plead their case.

They have since been Chartered and doing very will in such a diverse situation.

I cannot speak for other NIC Groups, but We do have a minimum and requirments that have to be ment for Chartering.

While I can speak only of My Un. ADPi, D Rho, and D Z or K Ds closed. D Rho hada chance to affiliate with Phi Mu and turned them down. ADPi had been there for some time and the other one was there for two years.

The Three still on Campus are: AGD, ASA, and SSS. 6 Fraternitys, LXA, PKA, STG, SPE, PSK and SX.

4 th Largest Un. in Ks.

[AngelPhiSig]

Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
Phi Sigma Sigma isn't either (they have a couple other chapters in PA).

Like irishpipes said about AOPi, Phi Sig has a TON of chapters in PA... seventeen to be exact. We have closed chapters in PA too, such as Iota at Pitt. Id love to see that one re-opened. (I did see your reply to irishpipes about the wording of your post...)

Beta Eta at PSU, Gamma Alpha at IUP...

Nationally Id like to see Gamma at NYU (wishful thinking), Zeta at UCLA, Eta University of Michigan, Mu at Berkley, Omicron at Loiusiana State, Rho at OSU...

I can go on and on. We have 110 chapters - not to shabby, BUT we are at a lot of smaller schools - state schools and branch campuses...

BUT I am a dork and listed our chapters by state: right here

[Little E]

That's cool. PA also has the most AST chapters (23 I think...)


I think expansion is great, but honestly, I think that it is more important to have a strong alumnae base to help support the chapters and org. We do spend more time as alumnae than actives...
I think something does need to be done to help struggling orgs, but I also think that we have to be careful thinking that everyone wants to have 200 chapters. My frustration with NPC is that while equality is great (obviously) I also feel like it is just as vital to promote diversity. I wonder if NPC embraced the idea that all orgs don't have to be very similar if more would flourish. The financial aspect is hugely important, but women who are looking for sororities all have different objectives in mind.

(I really don’t intend to sound like NPC is the sorority Gestapo making us all uniform.)

[Denise_DPhiE]

Dusquene timeline was much slower than expected so no presentations yet. Fifteen groups sent packets. Three groups were invited to present. Out of courtesy and the desire to not get into a "GO ABC" I am not listing which three.

I expect Carnegie Mellon will have the same response with 15 groups throwing their hats in the ring.

Regarding Dartmouth, which someone posted about, there are five dormant NPC groups. It is highly unlikely that all of those dormant NPC groups (5) will want to go back - of the 4 locals, three were NPC groups and it was the chapter who decided to disaffiliate with the NPC group (although I would not be surprised if the national wanted to close them up too for risk management issues).

We shall see!

[AngelPhiSig]

Denise DPhiE! I tried to PM you and your box is full! PM me when you get a chance!

[Erik P Conard]

Smaller GLOs will remain small so long as their appeal is narrow;
it would be hard to establish a mormon chapter in Connecticut
as it would be a Jewish one in Kansas. Some nationals simply do
not have the insight. From afar it is not hard to pinpoint the reason for lack of success by the very scope of discussions in here
I think the GA man was misunderstood. You start with two men and an idea...and grow from there. I am speaking about an NIC
seeking group. It would be easier if a particular group is in mind,
and the biggest obstacle is the administration, the IFC or some
dumb-ass Greek advisor. "We gotta get the size up of Woo Fah
Noo, then we will add." Folks I can point out a dozen campuses
where they have been waiting for the roast duck to drop from the
sky, i.e., Woo Fah Noo to improve. Perhaps Woo Fah Noo either
needs to be rebuilt or to die.
I have started many chapters with two men. It is not a disgrace to be small chapter but it is a disgrace to stay a small one. If
you are one of these 'small ones', get out of the way!

[Glitter650]

Originally posted by AngelPhiSig


Nationally Id like to see Gamma at NYU (wishful thinking), Zeta at UCLA, Eta University of Michigan, Mu at Berkley, Omicron at Loiusiana State, Rho at OSU...

I can go on and on. We have 110 chapters - not to shabby, BUT we are at a lot of smaller schools - state schools and branch campuses...

OH ALI.... How I love you Ten year plan baby ten year plan =)

[scotty K]

I have noticed that some GLOs cannot seem to keep a chapter up and running is some states. For example, Zeta Tau Alpha has closed all three of the chapters that were opened in the Commonwelath of KY, dating from the 1920's forward. Alpha Xi Delta has had to close it's two chapters in KY due to low numbers. Alpha Xi closed the Xi chapter on the campus of UK. On the other hand, Alpha Gam, Pike, Sig Ep, Chi O, and KD seem to grow all over.

[honeychile]

MANY of my high school teachers were in Chi Omega at CMU! I was shocked when they closed that chapter! Do the Pitt sororities still have mixers with the CMU fraternities? They were some fun times!!

Alpha Delta Pi currently has seven chapters in Pennsylvania, and another 4-6 chapters on the borders of WVA or OH. The Pittsburgh Alumnae Association regrouped last year, and is on FIRE!!! The women in charge are going step by step to complete everything needed for both the Association and the Chapter to win awards - a great mentality!

I could easily see ADPi presenting at either CMU or Duquesne. I've also been curious as to why there hasn't been a new colony at Robert Morris - their campus is growing by leaps and bounds!

[honeychile]

Originally posted by Denise_DPhiE
Dusquene timeline was much slower than expected so no presentations yet. Fifteen groups sent packets. Three groups were invited to present. Out of courtesy and the desire to not get into a "GO ABC" I am not listing which three.

Would you have a problem letting us know who sent packets?

[33girl]

Originally posted by scotty K
I have noticed that some GLOs cannot seem to keep a chapter up and running is some states. For example, Zeta Tau Alpha has closed all three of the chapters that were opened in the Commonwelath of KY, dating from the 1920's forward. Alpha Xi Delta has had to close it's two chapters in KY due to low numbers. Alpha Xi closed the Xi chapter on the campus of UK. On the other hand, Alpha Gam, Pike, Sig Ep, Chi O, and KD seem to grow all over.

I don't think you can compare fraternities and sororities, and I would hardly say the other sororities you've listed are "growing all over." Nothing against them, just that I've heard of them having as many closed chapters in recent years as the ones you bring up. What happens in your state certainly has nothing to do with the rest of the USA.

[kddani]

Originally posted by 33girl
I don't think you can compare fraternities and sororities, and I would hardly say the other sororities you've listed are "growing all over." Nothing against them, just that I've heard of them having as many closed chapters in recent years as the ones you bring up. What happens in your state certainly has nothing to do with the rest of the USA.

No, that's very true. I think he's looking at it from a very limited point of view- his geographic area, which isn't very accurate. If he actually looked into the info,he'd see that he's wrong. I would hardly say that KD is growing all over. Hell, we haven't even colonized anywhere for awhile now. Every group is opening new chapters

[Denise_DPhiE]

Originally posted by honeychile
Would you have a problem letting us know who sent packets?

Almost everyone not represented on the campus responded. I did not get the list of 15. He just told me there were 15 when I followed up with a call a week after the NPC bulletin said they would announce the selected groups for presentations. He said it was going to take weeks long because they had 15 packets to review when they only expected 5 or 6. I expect the same situation at Carnegie Mellon.

If you want to know if your org submitted a packet, you could drop an email to your extension director.
Denise