Greek Advisor Jobs

CutieClara · #1 10-21-2005, 06:35 PM

Hey ya'll I'm graduating this December and am interested in staying within the Greek "realm." Does anyone know of any Greek Life Advisor positions currently open?

Thanks!

Dionysus · #2 10-21-2005, 06:51 PM

You will need a masters in order to become a Greek Advisor at almost every school. That pretty much goes for any other student leadership position.

CutieClara · #3 10-21-2005, 06:53 PM

Yeah I'm doing that. But some positions on the West Coast do not require it.

#4 10-21-2005, 07:11 PM

Question to all:

Does local or national affiliation play a role in advisor selection?

For example, say Lucy Local is up for a Greek Life Advisor position against Natalie NPC and Nathan NIC. Would Natalie and Nathan have a bigger edge over Lucy because she's part of a local? I'm sure it would have to depend on the campus, but I'm not sure how effective it would be for someone to be in a leadership position who is unfamiliar with national (NPC/NIC/whatever) guidelines.

CutieClara · #5 10-21-2005, 07:14 PM

I think the cannidates with national experience woudl be a better selevtion, however- just because one is from a local org. does not mean they are not familiar with national standards and issues.

#6 10-21-2005, 07:34 PM

I also just wanted to make note of the fact that many advisor positions require that you be out of school for X number of years.

When I graduated, my chapter was desperate for Executive Council Advisors. Normally the advisor had to be out of school for at least 4-5 years to ensure that all the undergrads had already graduated/left school while she took the advisor position -- you know, keeping things fair and impartial. We went through a bunch of red tape just to let me become an advisor for my chapter.

My suggestion would be to first focus on your next degree and try to get more years under your belt. Hopefully in a few years you'll be ready to lead a campus full of Greek men and women.

JenMarie · #7 10-21-2005, 08:00 PM

If I remember correctly, I thought our old Greek Advisor was part of a local sorority.

PhoenixAzul · #8 10-21-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by CutieClara
I think the cannidates with national experience woudl be a better selevtion, however- just because one is from a local org. does not mean they are not familiar with national standards and issues.

and just because one is familiar with NPC/NIC/NPHC guidelines does not mean they understand the functions/guidelines of a local (or partially local) campus. It's a weird double sided coin . i don't think that being in an NPC is a "better" selection...I think it should be based more on a person's other qualifications (graduate work, statement, examples, past employment, interview, etc.) I feel that greek affiliation is important, but I don't feel that lconference membership (NPC/NIC/NPHC/NALFO/MC/Local) should really factor into it.

That aside, I think graduate work in student affairs would be a good degree track. One of my sisters is going into that next year.

(oh, and just as a side note, our past G.L. A's (in charge of fraternities and sororities) have been NPC women (a DG and an AOII))

Tom Earp · #9 10-22-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by OTW
I also just wanted to make note of the fact that many advisor positions require that you be out of school for X number of years.

When I graduated, my chapter was desperate for Executive Council Advisors. Normally the advisor had to be out of school for at least 4-5 years to ensure that all the undergrads had already graduated/left school while she took the advisor position -- you know, keeping things fair and impartial. We went through a bunch of red tape just to let me become an advisor for my chapter.

My suggestion would be to first focus on your next degree and try to get more years under your belt. Hopefully in a few years you'll be ready to lead a campus full of Greek men and women.

I met an AGD who Graduated from Her College and is now the Greek Advisor of said College. It does Happen and she is working on Her Masters there along with the Greek Advisor of My Alma Mater who is working on Her Masters. But, She is a far cry from the one at MSU.

CutieClara, My first thought is You should check Your spelling when posting! I can get away with it as it is EarpSpeak!

But, if You want to make an impression, do better! Do not generalize on what schools want.

If I was not so damn old, I would love to be a Greek Advisor. The Campus Greeks would run right! It would also be one hell of a Greek School!

BSUPhiSig'92 · #10 10-23-2005, 05:21 PM

Well since I am currently a Greek Life Advisor, one thing I can definitely was a factor for me, is that there wasn't a chapter of my fraternity on our campus. They wanted to avoid any chance of favoritism, so I'm not even allowed to ever try to bring a chapter of my National on to our campus. I think the local/national factor really depends where you are applying as an advisor. I've also found timing plays a critical role: I had much better luck the second time around when I was looking for vacancies after May, then when I was in the hunt with all of the people trying to land their first position after Grad School at all of the conferences in early Spring.

carnation · #11 10-23-2005, 05:26 PM

I was told that the reason that I won out over the other candidates when I got my Greek advising job was that I was a member of a national GLO that wasn't on that campus. On that campus, there's a lot of competition and they needed someone who would be neutral.

gpb1874 · #12 10-24-2005, 10:44 AM

i think if the campus is all or mostly national GLO's, then a candidate in a national will win out over one in a local.

i also think those who have just graduated can be a good greek advisor, but not everyone straight out of college can do it. i hear many GLO's require their chapter advisors be out for a certain amount of time so that they can really be more objective and see the bigger picture of the national organization and not just the chapter level.

it's not always important on the council level, especially if it's not your campus. if it is, that person will have a heck of a time! smaller campuses don't always have the ability to be picky about who they hire b/c not many will have a huge desire to work there, especially those with good experience. now, if one wants to work at UT straight out of school with no little advising experience, good luck! there really would be little chance. it is not just a competitve greek system for the undergrads, but is a competitive work environment too.

those that are in locals and who want to boost their resume should explore the possibility of volunteering for an NPC/NIC/NALFO group. although i'm in an NPC and advise my chapter, i also advised recruitment chair for an NIC chapter and got great experience with that. when i did get my job as GA, the guys couldn't say "she's a girl and doesn't know how fraternities work." most chapters do want someone from their own org to be advisors, but not every chapter has the ability in their town. also check with area alumnae panhellenics to see if there is a way for you to get involved. you might get weird looks, but you may also find women you want to help you out, which could lead to other opportunities.

to look for jobs, check out www.naspa.org, www.tacuspa.net (texas only) and i think it's www.acpa.org. that will get you started. just remember that positions vary GREATLY from one campus to another, especially as far as what is required and expected.

Little E · #13 10-24-2005, 01:12 PM

We had two greek advisors who had NO greek experience, they weren't part of orgs never rushed etc. It was hard, esp as one group was trying to go NPC and we had to pull out the Green Book and were arguing. We had our national to help us and everyone else was pretty lost.

Anyhow, you will probably need a masters unless you find a college like mine that has the Greek Advisor as part of a Hall Director (what ever the other titles are) job. Also look at student activities. You should look at experience that will help you get into grad school, you may not find your ideal job, but it may pay off to do something related in student activities and then focus on greeks during your master's.

Good Luck.

PsychTau2 · #14 10-24-2005, 02:01 PM

You can find a job with just a Bachelor's but the pickings are slim...and it will probably be combined with another job duty (or you will just be assigned to one council if it is at a bigger school).

Big southern schools (Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee) probably wouldn't even give you a second thought due to your organization and lack of work experience, but a smaller private school who "isn't the typical Greek system" might.

Check www.fraternityadvisors.org...consider joining...they can give you access to job listings.

PsychTau