Legacy concern @ Nebraska

oldrusheenowmom · #1 08-25-2005, 12:52 PM

I don't think this can be the case, but a mother whose daughter went through Rush at Nebraska says that if you are a legacy and that house "cuts" you, then the other houses put up a "red flag." The other houses know that a PNM's legacy house "cut" and then they become concerned about the PNM too. Does each house have the information about cuts, invites, declines, etc.? I started to tell someone that I didn't think that was the case, but then I decided I should check before I say something???

pinkyphimu · #2 08-25-2005, 01:07 PM

i don't remember getting the lists of invites from the other chapters too. i am sure that chapters have ways of finding out, for example, if the pnm says something at a party.

peanutttu · #3 08-25-2005, 01:11 PM

When I was Recruitment Information Mgr., I don't recall getting this type of information. It may vary from school to school, but I know that we never received this type of specific information. If we would've received this type of information, I'm not sure that it would've raised a "red flag". I think that we would've used our own judgement based upon her application and recs.

PenguinTrax · #4 08-25-2005, 01:14 PM

Invitation lists, etc. are not shared from group to group. It's fairly common for some groups to cut a lot of legacies - very often there are more legacy PNMs than can fill an entire new member class at a single chapter, so there's no way a chapter can keep every single one, all the way through recruitment.

PenguinTrax · #5 08-25-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by SigK_Bama
Also, when the girls returned their rush apps with their legacy info on it, it was blacked out for all of the chapters except those to which the girl was a legacy. As in, I wouldn't see that Suzy Q is a legacy of DG on the copy of her rush app that we have, but the copy of the rush app that DG has would show the information.

Not every campus does this, though. We always knew who was a legacy and from which group.

irishpipes · #6 08-25-2005, 02:29 PM

I have heard stories though about actives sharing information with actives in other sororities. For example, if Suzy Rushee is an XYZ legacy and she doesn't want to go XYZ, she better cut them fairly early because the other sororities will assume she is going XYZ and will cut her, saving slots for more promising rushees. I don't know of that happening on my campus, but have heard it happened on another one as a regular occurrence. (A campus where we didn't even have a chapter though.) One of my sisters was very concerned about this, as she was a legacy. I am no recruitment expert, but I am sure that violates a whole lot of rules.

Lindz928 · #7 08-25-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by PenguinTrax
Not every campus does this, though. We always knew who was a legacy and from which group.

We did too. I think it helped us alot in some cases. If Patty PNM is a triple legacy to ABC and she has a sitting sister there, it was something that we definately wanted to take into consideration. Of course we would never cut someone for this, but it IS nice to know if someone is highly likely to join their legacy house.

FAB*SpiceySpice · #8 08-25-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Lindz928
We did too. I think it helped us alot in some cases. If Patty PNM is a triple legacy to ABC and she has a sitting sister there, it was something that we definately wanted to take into consideration. Of course we would never cut someone for this, but it IS nice to know if someone is highly likely to join their legacy house.

Yeah we always knew this too, it'd say what sorority the PNM was a legacy to and usually the chapter or school name. Several times I've had the PNM bring it up herself, when talking about the rush experience and how they're liking it some would mention that they're prepared b/c their mom was in a sorority or their sister was already in one at Mizzou. One time I had a girl on 16 party day tell me that she was a quadruple legacy to XYZ, and they had all been a part of the Mizzou chapter so she pretty much told me I didn't need to waste my time trying to rush her, she wasn't interested. She didn't even end up joining that chapter after ALL that and instead joined a chapter full of bitches, surprise surprise.

FSUZeta · #9 08-25-2005, 04:19 PM

we were always way too busy getting ready for the next days events to go anywhere where we might see someone from another house-even if we did we would not tell anyone who we released and who we invited back.

Lindz928 · #10 08-25-2005, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by FAB*SpiceySpice
She didn't even end up joining that chapter after ALL that and instead joined a chapter full of bitches, surprise surprise.

hehehe.

KSUViolet06 · #11 08-25-2005, 05:27 PM

Invite lists are a part of membership selesction and as such are not shared between other sororities. I'm pretty sure that type of contact between sorority members violates a Panhellenic rule. Even if it weren't against the rules, we are all way too busy to "swap" info with other chapters anyway.

Glitterkitty · #12 08-25-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by SigK_Bama
Also, when the girls returned their rush apps with their legacy info on it, it was blacked out for all of the chapters except those to which the girl was a legacy. As in, I wouldn't see that Suzy Q is a legacy of DG on the copy of her rush app that we have, but the copy of the rush app that DG has would show the information.

That isn't true on all campuses though. We knew exactly who was a legacy and where. Nothing was blacked out. We also knew who they went back to at each party. We knew exactly who they preffed. What we DIDN'T know though was whether or not the PNM cut them or they cut her. So we didn't make assumptions if she did not go back to her lagacy house. It's just as likely she cut them as vice versa.

Edited to say: We also didn't cut girls b/c they were legacies of other houses or whatever. If we loved them, we'd actually rush them harder to try to steel them! It was assumed however that if a current sister had a sibling/ family member going through recruitment that she was automatically "in". I never saw that challenged.

AAgammagirl · #13 08-25-2005, 06:34 PM

similar to GlitterKitty's post, we always knew who the legacies were and which chapter they were legacy to. however, legacies on our campus were seen as a challenge, it didn't matter where they were legacy to, chapters always tried harder to steal her away from the legacy chapter.

Aphigal · #14 08-25-2005, 09:17 PM

I know that Alpha Phi has something like 20+ legs and 8 are sisters of CURRENT actives so...I doubt released legs are red flagged by other chapters.

tunatartare · #15 08-25-2005, 09:26 PM

At my school we usually don't have many legacies (the most we've ever had was three at a time) and usually everyone knows what sorority a PNM is a legacy to. This past spring we had a girl go through recruitment who was on a sports team with several girls in one of the sororities on campus and was from the same time as one of them. Obviously she got very close to those girls, and when time came for recruitment, we all kind of "knew" that she was going to join that sorority. A girl from this sorority lived with a few of my sisters and told us that she wanted them and they definitely wanted her so that we wouldn't waste space on our bid list. We still invited her to pref and she came, but she ended up joining the sorority that everyone thought she would.