Five-Week Ban on Alcohol at San Diego State U

[exlurker]

At San Diego State U, according to a San Diego newspaper’s site:

“fraternities and sororities will be banned from hosting parties with alcohol for five weeks starting tomorrow, about a week before the first day of classes Sept. 2. The ban coincides with a new, five-week period of university-sponsored, alcohol-free weekend night programming, including dances, movies and concerts for all students.”

See entire article, which includes quotes from the IFC president and the president of one of the fraternity chapters, at

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...4policies.html

[fantASTic]

...Can they do that?? What says that a fraternity can't sponsor a party with alcohol? No law does.

I call bullshit - they can't enforce it. All they can do is break it up, IF the fraternity is breaking the law.

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

...Can they do that?? What says that a fraternity can't sponsor a party with alcohol? No law does.

I call bullshit - they can't enforce it. All they can do is break it up, IF the fraternity is breaking the law.

Plus, if the majority of the attendees are under 21, having alcohol available to all at the party would be contributing to the delinquency of minors. If parents can go to jail for letting their kid(s) drink with friends at their own home, then the same law would apply to a fraternity.

(Just saying that "they" can do that. Not making a judgment statement.)

[Kevin]

Sure they can as long as IFC cooperates. Since IFC is interested in continuing to have their member organizations be recognized by the school, I don't really see the issue here.

[gtdxeric]

My initial reactions:

1. There are going to be some raging off-campus parties for those five weeks.

2. The local bars are going to make hay for those five weeks.

3. There are going to be some raging on-campus parties at the end of those five weeks.

[AGDee]

I would hope that the Greek organizations at SDSU would realize, after what happened there last spring, that their best course of action would be to take it easy, find some fun non-alcoholic activities to engage in and watch their Ps and Qs. True, the worst the University can do is pull recognition as a student organization, but they need to realize that they are under a microscope right now by both the University and their nationals. Some schools are simply seen as "high risk" campuses and SDSU catapulted to the top of that list with the drug busts in the spring, just as Chico and the schools in Colorado did in previous years after extreme incidents.

Originally Posted by gtdxeric

My initial reactions:

1. There are going to be some raging off-campus parties for those five weeks.

2. The local bars are going to make hay for those five weeks.

3. There are going to be some raging on-campus parties at the end of those five weeks.

or 4. There are going to be some raging SECRET on-campus parties for those 5 weeks.
trust me, i know
lol

Originally Posted by DZbabyy

or 4. There are going to be some raging SECRET on-campus parties for those 5 weeks.
trust me, i know
lol

You get the Discretion is Key Award.

Psst. It's not SECRET if you post it on GreekChat for all the world to see.

[idkk]

Originally Posted by OTW

You get the Discretion is Key Award.

Psst. It's not SECRET if you post it on GreekChat for all the world to see.

Yeah, not the greatest idea...but at least the ban is almost over...

wow... i definitely earned that one.
i dont even know what i was thinking when i posted lol

[CrackerBarrel]

Whoever had that idea =

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by gtdxeric

My initial reactions:

1. There are going to be some raging off-campus parties for those five weeks.

2. The local bars are going to make hay for those five weeks.

3. There are going to be some raging on-campus parties at the end of those five weeks.

How would that be different (for any student, not just Greeks) than any other time of the year?

[gtdxeric]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

How would that be different (for any student, not just Greeks) than any other time of the year?

I suppose my point is that forbidding parties for a set amount of time won't automatically lead Greeks at SDSU to an appreciation of the sober life and alcohol-free events. Instead, the students will probably find alternate means of engaging in the social activities of their choosing.

Judging by the SDSU Greek Life website, most of the Greek houses are within walking distance of campus. Are offcampus houses favored by students also within walking distance? Or the bars favored by students? If they are, then it's probably a wash, but if not, I wouldn't be surprised to see an increase in drunk driving incidents.

[SoCalGirl]

The school is targeting the partying of all students, not just the greeks. The city has been targeting off campus parties for the last year or so with all sorts of fines (in the thousands of dollars). IIRC they also have a program where if a house gets a second noise violation, ever, the fines compound even more and there will be arrests. This program is tricky because it doesn't matter who owned or lived at the residence the first time or how long ago it occured.

State students party anywhere. Houses, bars, Pacific Beach, downtown and Tijuana. They're not loyal to a single part of town.

[PhiGam]

This is what happens when people allow IFC to get too strong.