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Old 04-18-2008, 12:10 PM
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The human right for McDonald's employees not to wash their hands

The human right for McDonald's employees not to wash their hands
By Ezra Levant on April 15, 2008 4:09 PM

Listen. I love McDonald's, both for their food and for what they stand for philosophically. I thought that Super Size Me was a piece of anti-capitalist, anti-beef propaganda.

But when you're in Vancouver, skip the McDonald's on Marine Drive.

That's because the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal has ruled that one of the employees there has a human right not to wash her hands when working in their kitchen.

Beena Datt claimed that she developed a "skin condition" that meant she couldn't wash her hands in compliance with McDonald's hygiene policy. That's the same hygiene policy that makes McDonald's like an embassy to Canadians travelling overseas -- when you're in a Third World country, and tired of eating in hygiene-challenged local restaurants, you can count on a western standard of cleanliness and quality at McDonald's.

In B.C., McDonald's hygiene policy isn't just a matter of corporate pride. It's a matter of the law -- both the Health Act and the Food Premises Regulations. And then there's B.C.'s Food Protection Guidelines issued by the B.C. Centre for Disease Control. McDonald's subscribes to all of them. Hell, they probably helped write them.

McDonald's is fanatical about hand-washing, to their credit. They have hand-washing rules. Not just the obvious "wash your hands after the bathroom" rules. But other rules, like wash your hands after shaking someone's hand. Wash your hands after retrieving food from the freezer. Wash your hands after touching a door handle. They even have a chime that goes off every hour. It's a "we're all going to wash our hands now" chime. Seriously -- see paragraph 23 of the ruling.

Datt wouldn't wash her hands. She just wouldn't -- she said she couldn't. So her employment was terminated. The B.C. Human Rights Tribunal ordered that McDonald's pay her not only $23,000 for "lost income", but an additional $25,000 for her "dignity and self-respect". You see, in B.C. a food preparation worker's self-respect trumps a company's commitment to cleanliness. They violated her "human rights".

The $50,000+ penalty -- plus several years of legal fees and medical and rehab experts -- isn't the worst of it. Inventing a "human right" for a worker to go to the bathroom and then to handle meat without washing her hands in between, as an excuse for that $50,000 shakedown isn't the worst of it either.

The worst of it is that the BCHRT has ordered that McDonald's, in paragraph 298 of the decision, to "cease the discriminatory conduct or any similar conduct and refrain from committing the same or similar contravention."

Beena Datt and her filthy hands are gone. But the restaurant has been ordered not to enforce its hand washing policy in any future cases like Datt's.

I wonder what will happen if, God forbid, someone were to contract a disease from that McDonald's because of this insane order. Could such a victim sue McDonald's for failing to live up to its legal public health requirements, even though McDonald's wanted to do so? Or could the BCHRT itself be sued? Would your answer be different if it was just one customer who got an upset stomach -- or a dozen people dying from e. coli, Walkerton style?


http://ezralevant.com/2008/04/the-hu...mcdonalds.html
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:19 PM
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Now that's just gross!
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:26 PM
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Now that's just gross!
that sums it up right there....
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:53 PM
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that sums it up right there....


We dont eat at Little Casear's here. One of our patients works there and has some kind of hand condition where the skin on them is cracked to the point blood and serous fluid can leak out. He admitted to our practitioner that he doenst wear gloves or anything to cover/protect his hands while preparing the dough for pizzas. Totally disgusting.

I wonder what this human rights group would think if they got Hepatitis A from a restaurant that couldve been prevented had employees simply washed their hands (it is a fecal/oral route transmission).
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Old 04-18-2008, 07:04 PM
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^^^You should report that to your local Health Bureau (after visiting the location b/c patient privilege and all), he has a right to work-just not there. (I don't eat little caesar's cos it's nasty! but this makes it worse).

Wondering-couldn't a customer countersue and claim that her not washing her hands is in violation of their human rights or something? i know it'd most certainly be in mine.

I agree with whoever said shut down the McDonald's to prove a point. There has to be a line drawn somewhere. If she wants to work at a CVS counter (which probably pays more) I'd be down-she's not handling food. Even as a cashier in a local grocery, as long as she's not handling food! She could work in an office, from her home (where she can be as nasty as she wants), in a clock factory, I could keep going...just as long as it's not with food.
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:40 PM
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I'm as pro-hand washing as the next person, but when you read the first article that Jon posted, you'll see that the case ended up being more about McDonald's not taking the actions that it should have to see if she could have been employed by them in a way that didn't require as frequent hand washing, basically in a non-food handling job.

She had worked there for more than 20 years when she developed some kind of health problem related to frequent hand washing. McDonalds basically just fired her and never even dealt with her directly to see what exactly the problem was and if she could be accommodated.

So while making the case about allowing food service employees to refuse to handle food makes us all interested and outraged, it's really a failure to accommodate a disability lawsuit.

There's no indication that anyone felt that food service employees could refuse to wash their hands.
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:34 PM
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I thought this was a joke until I did a search under complaints name and found pages of links on matter.
Including this one which gives a bit of a different spin to matters:
http://www.lmls.com/uploads/content/...r2007-2008.pdf
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:27 PM
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McDonald's should just shut that store down instead of buckle. That policy should be a point of pride as a business practice, they'd benefit at their other locations where people know their food is handled in the proper manner and cleanliness is important. That store will eventually die from lack of business or discredit anyway.
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:39 PM
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First they do not have a right to work there. They were hired to do a job and follow company policy.

Not going by proper food codes can cause desease and get the shop closed down.
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Old 04-18-2008, 01:33 PM
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Liberalism at it's best. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

It's ok, McDonald's is an evil capitalistic monster anyway.
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Old 04-18-2008, 01:35 PM
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Those Canadians take PC stuff pretty seriously, eh?
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:14 PM
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Anyone remember the frivolous lawsuits that trickled in against McDee's? Doing something like this is like opening the floodgates.
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:30 PM
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This happened in Canada though.

They have a different set of floodgates.
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:04 PM
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God damned liberals, I'm glad that I don't have to worry about this kind of crap. Watch out California, you're next.
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:16 PM
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God damned liberals, I'm glad that I don't have to worry about this kind of crap. Watch out California, you're next.
What?

Liberals?

Most of the liberals I know wash their hands.

I go even farther and bet that they would agree that this is "gross."

I'll bet that the real problem is that this McDonalds uses harsh old conservative hand soap.
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