You've seriously gotta be kidding me - A "Creation" museum?

[RACooper]

Right got this emailed to me through facebook from folks doing their Anthro PhD.

Genesis of a theory evolves into museum

PETERSBURG, KY. — In a sylvan glade, beside a burbling stream, young children cavort with baby Tyrannosaurus rex.

Then Eve offers Adam some fruit, and the room descends into dark scenes of natural catastrophe and holocausts.

Dinosaurs march into the Ark. Chairs rock and the audience gets spritzed with water while watching the video re-enactment of the flood.

Starting today, the United States has its own first-class Creation Museum, sparing no expense in its effort to demonstrate that every single word in the Book of Genesis is literally true and scientifically accurate.

rest at:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...wcreationism28

Are the poll results at the end of the article serious? Do that many American's seriously believe in Creationism or "Creation Science"? and is it true (as reported by the CBC) that 3 of the 10 Republican candidates are Creationists who reject Evolution?

[Kevin]

RACooper, the 3/10 figure is probably accurate. I'm a Republican in the middle of the Bible Belt and I generally think of the creation story as being allegorical.

That said, down in these parts, ignorance is thought of by many as being a virtue.

Even though the 3/10 figure may be correct, I think there are far better litmus tests for candidates than their adherence to religious doctrine, so to me, it's just their belief. Whether they believe God created the world in 7 days or that Joseph decoded some magical plates with some seer stones in order to bring us the Book of Mormon, there are more important ways to decide whether or not someone will make a good leader.

[Drolefille]

I've heard of the museum, and yes, it's true about the Republican candidates. Luckily their are 7 more of them + however many Democrats we're up to now and we can ignore those three.


As someone said on LJ I think, if dinos had lived at the same time as humans, the Romans wouldn't have had their gladiators fighting lions... Raptors would be way more entertaining.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

As someone said on LJ I think, if dinos had lived at the same time as humans, the Romans wouldn't have had their gladiators fighting lions... Raptors would be way more entertaining.

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creationism = pwned

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Kevin

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creationism = pwned

Now now, I think God made everything, I just think that it happened via the Big Bang and evolution and all that jazz.

I love being Catholic

[RACooper]

Ah yes - Theistic Evolution, rationality and faith together (shocking concept huh?)

[33girl]

Originally Posted by RACooper

Ah yes - Theistic Evolution, rationality and faith together (shocking concept huh?)

That's what I believe. I didn't know it had a name.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by RACooper

Ah yes - Theistic Evolution, rationality and faith together (shocking concept huh?)

I'm somewhere in there, too. Not that shocking at all.

Thanks for the formal name!

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I love being Catholic

It's nice, isn't it? I went to Catholic High School where they taught that believing in the creationist myth was a "choice." It got even better when JPII wrote that essentially no informed/educated person could possibly believe in the 7 day creation myth

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by RACooper

Right got this emailed to me through facebook from folks doing their Anthro PhD.

Genesis of a theory evolves into museum

rest at:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...wcreationism28

Are the poll results at the end of the article serious? Do that many American's seriously believe in Creationism or "Creation Science"? and is it true (as reported by the CBC) that 3 of the 10 Republican candidates are Creationists who reject Evolution?

Rob, a little context would be nice. The three candidates who reject evolution are fringe, 2nd tier candidates (Brownback, Tancredo, and Huckabee, who is a Baptist pastor). Tancredo is a loose cannon who will be one of the first candidates to drop off, and Brownback and Huckabee won't be far behind.

Then again, I agree with Kevin that a candidate's religious beliefs don't really hold much water with me; there are other characteristics I'm looking for in the candidate who will get my vote.
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[AKA_Monet]

I dislike being the "monkey wrench", but the Creation Museum was on CBS Affiliates. And I found it extraordinarily disturbing. It debunks all of Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Laws of Thermodynamics.

The issue for me as a scientist is these kinds of things cannot be answered by science, i.e. what was God doing before He created Heaven and Earth; or why do bad things happend to good people?

As a scientist, I do not ask those questions. I leave those to the philosophers and theologians to study. Rather, I ask how can I stabilize a patient who is in heart failure or cardiac decompensation...

What this museum does in my opinion is add unproven concepts to scientific facts that cannot be tested or proven. It is unethical.

[Trey_P-I_47]

I have a question for you AKA Monet, how many people have you seen on the brink of death and suddenly for no reason they recovered completely. or how many patients have you dealt with that had cancer, and through no radiation or treatment, were apparently healed. I know that these types of cases exist, and I am not preaching religion at anyone, I just have a legitimate question, and would like some insight from a person in the medical field. Surely you have seen something like this, right?

I just think, at some point its kinda hard to put off that there is no God, otherwise how do people magically get healed in what we call 'Miracles'. If there is no medical treatment and obviously the body cant just make major medical changes overnight, or sometime is the matter of hours, how else do you explain something like this without a higher being?

[Rudey]

I've never actually met someone that believes in Creationism. I mean I know people who believe in Adam & Eve and the whole bit but they either integrate evolution into it or they simply never thought twice about how the two go together. As far as I'm concerned, those crazy freaks are on tv only.

-Rudey

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Rudey

I've never actually met someone that believes in Creationism. I mean I know people who believe in Adam & Eve and the whole bit but they either integrate evolution into it or they simply never thought twice about how the two go together. As far as I'm concerned, those crazy freaks are on tv only.

-Rudey

You could visit Oklahoma.

Or you could just take my word for it that they exist outside of TV.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by Rudey

I've never actually met someone that believes in Creationism. I mean I know people who believe in Adam & Eve and the whole bit but they either integrate evolution into it or they simply never thought twice about how the two go together. As far as I'm concerned, those crazy freaks are on tv only.

-Rudey

You're lucky. I was raised in a church that very, very much believes in creationism. And have encountered people at every level in my education/life in general who have very firmly believed in creation science (we had the kid in our earth science class lecture, at a major tech university, that tried to argue with the professor on this stuff - wth??).