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03-14-2007, 09:17 AM
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Pentagon protest of War on St Pats Day!!
This weekend marks the unfortunate fourth year anniversary of our declared war in Iraq. I went thru the protests duirng Vietnam and whether we made a difference, we still felt we let those in so called Leadership positions hear our voices...
Saturday March 17th is the date for the Pentagon Protest and please at least go to this site and decide if you would like to add your voice about this long raging war or at least see what a true protest with celebrities and political leaders and well known speakers is all about
the Pentagon protest site is
http://answer.pephost.org/site/Page Server?pagename=m17_hompage
And then when you are done, toast the event with Green Beer so you wont forget it also is St Patrick's Day..and the Irish were some of the historical ancestors who had a lot to struggle thru and would appreciate the good intentions of those at the Pentagon to let the government know "enough is enough."
Hard to believe this war has lasted longer than World War II ....four years whew???
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03-14-2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hazelle
This weekend marks the unfortunate fourth year anniversary of our declared war in Iraq. I went thru the protests duirng Vietnam and whether we made a difference, we still felt we let those in so called Leadership positions hear our voices...
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Hopefully the protests are more respectful than some of the Vietnam ones; my dad still tells stories of people calling him a "baby killer" when he returned from his tour in Vietnam.
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03-15-2007, 11:43 PM
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Hopefully the protests are more respectful than some of the Vietnam ones; my dad still tells stories of people calling him a "baby killer" when he returned from his tour in Vietnam.
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Yes, but to be completely fair, there were some also powerful and yet respectful protests as well.
I'm pleased that you said "some."
It was a very complex time.
I also said four years ago that I saw a lot of parallels between this conflict and Vietnam. I still do.
And this situation is complex as well.
An understatement.
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03-16-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
Yes, but to be completely fair, there were some also powerful and yet respectful protests as well.
I'm pleased that you said "some."
It was a very complex time.
I also said four years ago that I saw a lot of parallels between this conflict and Vietnam. I still do.
And this situation is complex as well.
An understatement.
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Certainly; I wouldn't characterize everyone by the actions of a few.
I understand it was a complex time; it was certainly complex when my dad, who had served his country for a year overseas, returned home at the age of 21 and was greeted with taunts as a "baby-killer" and other similar chants. I understand some protests were peaceful, but there were others that were not, that targeted the soldiers who fought.
I'm glad to see that most of the protests today do not repeat those mistakes.
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03-16-2007, 10:44 PM
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it was certainly complex when my dad, who had served his country for a year overseas, returned home at the age of 21 and was greeted with taunts as a "baby-killer" and other similar chants. I understand some protests were peaceful, but there were others that were not, that targeted the soldiers who fought.
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I know.
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03-16-2007, 02:11 PM
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True this was bad. But it might be amusing to see some protestors set themselves on fire with gasoline. Might knock Anna Nicole out of the news for a while.
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Hopefully the protests are more respectful than some of the Vietnam ones; my dad still tells stories of people calling him a "baby killer" when he returned from his tour in Vietnam.
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03-14-2007, 10:25 AM
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Hard to believe this war has lasted longer than World War II ....four years whew???
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WWII lasted from 1939 until 1945. The US involvement was shorter (12/7/41 - 8/14/45). I am assuming that's what you are trying to say.
Incorrect information for propaganda purposes does not help a cause.
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03-14-2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hazelle
And then when you are done, toast the event with Green Beer so you wont forget it also is St Patrick's Day..and the Irish were some of the historical ancestors who had a lot to struggle thru and would appreciate the good intentions of those at the Pentagon to let the government know "enough is enough."
Hard to believe this war has lasted longer than World War II ....four years whew???
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What the hell? This war has nothing to do with St. Patrick's day. Plus March 17th is the single day of the year when the most amount of fundraising for the IRA (read: terrorism) is done. Ironic, I think?
This war hasn't been longer than WW2, sorry to disappoint.
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03-14-2007, 12:46 PM
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03-14-2007, 01:25 PM
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We still have bases in Europe as a result of WWII... so we still haven't brought the boys home from that engagement. Our involvement in WWII is going on 66 years now.
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03-14-2007, 01:32 PM
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Clearly you are not Irish.
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03-14-2007, 01:35 PM
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What the hell? This war has nothing to do with St. Patrick's day.
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I think it's just that the Saturday (and therefore ideal day for a protest) closest to the anniversary of the start of the war (March 20) happens to fall on St. Patrick's Day this year.
And WWII's 6-year length aside, we are no longer at war with Iraq. We are still occupying Iraq (just like we occupied parts of Europe after 1945) and we are fighting insurgents in Iraq, but we are not at war with Iraq. So if it's going to be compared to WWII, you have to do what Kevin did and look at occupation/involvement after the war itself ended. Otherwise, apples =/= oranges.
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03-14-2007, 01:33 PM
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03-14-2007, 01:35 PM
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03-15-2007, 12:59 AM
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We also like spelling! And punctuation! And parochial school!
But not the English.
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Somebody forgot to send my ancestors the memo about the English!
And comparing the current US involvement in the Middle East to Viet Nam is naive, at best. Have an Irish Coffee and mellow out on Saturday instead.
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