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02-28-2005, 01:23 AM
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women and sperm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in676358.shtml
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Court Greenlights Man's Sperm Suit
CHICAGO, Feb. 24, 2005
(AP) An appeals court said a man can press a claim for emotional distress after learning a former lover had used his sperm to have a baby. But he can't claim theft, the ruling said, because the sperm were hers to keep.
The ruling Wednesday by the Illinois Appellate Court sends Dr. Richard O. Phillips' distress case back to trial court.
Phillips accuses Dr. Sharon Irons of a "calculated, profound personal betrayal" after their affair six years ago, saying she secretly kept semen after they had oral sex, then used it to get pregnant.
He said he didn't find out about the child for nearly two years, when Irons filed a paternity lawsuit. DNA tests confirmed Phillips was the father, the court papers state.
Phillips was ordered to pay about $800 a month in child support, said Irons' attorney, Enrico Mirabelli.
Phillips sued Irons, claiming he has had trouble sleeping and eating and has been haunted by "feelings of being trapped in a nightmare," court papers state.
Irons responded that her alleged actions weren't "truly extreme and outrageous" and that Phillips' pain wasn't bad enough to merit a lawsuit. The circuit court agreed and dismissed Phillips' lawsuit in 2003.
But the higher court ruled that, if Phillips' story is true, Irons "deceitfully engaged in sexual acts, which no reasonable person would expect could result in pregnancy, to use plaintiff's sperm in an unorthodox, unanticipated manner yielding extreme consequences."
The judges backed the lower court decision to dismiss the fraud and theft claims, agreeing with Irons that she didn't steal the sperm.
"She asserts that when plaintiff 'delivered' his sperm, it was a gift — an absolute and irrevocable transfer of title to property from a donor to a donee," the decision said. "There was no agreement that the original deposit would be returned upon request."
Phillips is representing himself in the case. He could not be reached for comment Thursday.
"There's a 5-year-old child here," Mirabelli said. "Imagine how a child feels when your father says he feels emotionally damaged by your birth."
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I don't think it was clear in the article since it didn't seem to be the main focus of this part of the legal battle: Does he still have to pay child support?
Oral sex is 100% prego-proof. He didn't do anything that could be thought to lead to pregnancy by even the most remote measure. The pregnancy was obviously her choice and her choice alone, so he should not be required to pay child support.
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02-28-2005, 02:21 AM
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Another article, different source.
He's paying about $800 a month in child support.
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02-28-2005, 02:27 AM
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I don't know if you can force someone to pay child support on a "gift."
Very weird . . .
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02-28-2005, 02:33 AM
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"There's a 5-year-old child here," Mirabelli said. "Imagine how a child feels when your father says he feels emotionally damaged by your birth."
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Imagine how a child feels when you find out how you were conceived. Mommy really had the best intentions for the child now, didn't she? 
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02-28-2005, 02:35 AM
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Imagine how a child feels when you find out how you were conceived. Mommy really had the best intentions for the child now, didn't she?
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FWIW, rumor has it that both Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret were conceived the same way....
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02-28-2005, 03:13 AM
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You know, getting pregnant to keep a guy in your life is bad enough, but seriously folks, giving him a Beej, and then saving the load? That is just ridiculous. She shouldn't be getting a penny of this guys money. EVER. I somehow doubt he was thinking of his load as a gift.
I should tell that one to my boyfriend. 
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02-28-2005, 03:47 AM
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FWIW, rumor has it that both Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret were conceived the same way....
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WTF!?!?!?
I thought I'd heard every f*cked-up rumor bashing the Royal Family but this is the first I've heard of this "gem".
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02-28-2005, 01:28 PM
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WTF!?!?!?
I thought I'd heard every f*cked-up rumor bashing the Royal Family but this is the first I've heard of this "gem".
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I'm meaning via turkey baster, not the complete arrangement that this woman pulled. Actually, read enough books about the Royals, and you'll see that mentioned several times.
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02-28-2005, 02:11 PM
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Yeah I've heard the turkey baster comments too.
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02-28-2005, 03:42 PM
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Yeah I've heard the turkey baster comments too.
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People, stop. You're going to ruin Thanksgiving for me.
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02-28-2005, 03:53 PM
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Oh, my goodness...I can't believe this...er, lady. I had heard something about it, but I sort of dismissed it as urban legend. What an awful thing to do to that poor man!
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02-28-2005, 03:54 PM
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People, stop. You're going to ruin Thanksgiving for me.
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Happy Thanksgiving.
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02-28-2005, 03:59 PM
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Wowzers!
That is nuts!!!!!
Apparently this lady thinks it's the gift that keeps on giving!!!
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02-28-2005, 04:06 PM
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You are terrible. Awful. Almost as bad as me. Almost.
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02-28-2005, 05:40 PM
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Child support! Next we'll hear about a guy who rapes a woman, gets an STD from her and sues her. WTF?
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