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			I heard recently (from a friend who is an MD) that in some test cases they were able to get seven (I think that's the right number) out of seven patients treated with stem cells for severe congestive heart failure to regenerate their dead heart tissues simply by injecting their own stem cells into the heart.  All seven of the patients have since been released from the hostpital and are on their ways to full recoveries.  None were expected to live for very long without this treatment. 
 
It really opens the eyes though as to what this technology could mean to the medical field.  We could cure countless diseases and drastically improve the quality of life for many people.   
 
There is a major contraversy over whether human stem cells from aborted fetuses should be used to further medical science -- and in the event of a breakthrough, be used to cure diseases (like Alzheimer's).   
 
I can see the justification in objecting to doctors actually paying women to harvest fetuses from their wombs in order to obtain stem cells.  However, I can't see the justification in just allowing this resource to simply be destroyed when tapping it could mean so much good could be done. 
 
I believe that in this case we are wasting a valuable resource.  Whatever your stance on abortion.  It happens.  This is the only good that I can see coming of this.  Anyone have an opinion?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			My family is pro-life.  My father had a series of neurological problems, and was one of the early "guinea pigs" for botox.  But when he was offered stem cells, he turned them down. 
 
I see nothing wrong with creating some sort of medical bank to preserve umbilical cords, but once stem cell research becomes legal/acceptable, you're going to have thousands of women having babies aborted for spare parts.  I can only pray that we never morally sink so low!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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I see nothing wrong with creating some sort of medical bank to preserve umbilical cords, but once stem cell research becomes legal/acceptable, you're going to have thousands of women having babies aborted for spare parts.  I can only pray that we never morally sink so low! 
			
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 I understand your sentiments Honeychile.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			If we can possibly find a cure for Alzheimer's and other terminal diseases, I am all for using stem cells from aborted fetuses.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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...but once stem cell research becomes legal/acceptable, you're going to have thousands of women having babies aborted for spare parts.  I can only pray that we never morally sink so low! 
			
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 I don't see that happening unless doctors, labs, etc start offering these women compensation for the stem cells.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	
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			If a child dies, the parents have the right to donate that childs body to science for study, or perhaps organ donation. I see no difference between this and stem cells.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	
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			You know people always concentrate on the what ifs, and they take the what ifs to an extreme.  What if we had a baby factory with sweat shop pregnant workers constantly making fetuses for us? 
 
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You know people always concentrate on the what ifs, and they take the what ifs to an extreme.  What if we had a baby factory with sweat shop pregnant workers constantly making fetuses for us? 
 
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 True.  Why would anyone have an abortion she wouldn't otherwise have so the parts could be used for medical research?  Would women just think that's such a fun idea they'd be lining up on the streets to do it?  I'm about as pro choice as they come, and I can't even imagine anyone doing that.  It would be easy enough to prohibit compensation for it -- aren't there laws against selling body parts?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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True.  Why would anyone have an abortion she wouldn't otherwise have so the parts could be used for medical research?  Would women just think that's such a fun idea they'd be lining up on the streets to do it?  I'm about as pro choice as they come, and I can't even imagine anyone doing that.  It would be easy enough to prohibit compensation for it -- aren't there laws against selling body parts? 
			
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 i think you're right (but i do see your concern as well, honeychile)....as far as laws against selling body parts, i dunno.  aren't there some ppl getting, i dunno, a couple thousand for their eggs?  maybe not a body  part, really, but still.....??
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			As far as I know, people can sell eggs and sperm.  I'd never do it myself, but it's legal, probably because lawmakers like the idea behind it because it helps people have babies.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I support stem cell research.  If it can  create a cure  to  Parkinsons and  Alzhiemers   i  say  go  for it.  I  buried a  grandfather  last  yr  who  had  both  and   if  it can s ave  a  human  being  and  their  family    what  we  and  the reagans and  any  other family went through  it should be  performed.  this  is a brain diease  and  all dieases  should  have  some support  for research  to cure  the  problem.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	
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