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Old 10-17-2003, 08:43 PM
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DZ to build new house at UF

http://www.alligator.org/edit/news/i...rityhouse.html

Sorority house plans approved
By DWAYNE ROBINSON
Alligator Writer

Delta Zeta Sorority members likely will open the doors of a new sorority house in August.

A 5-1 vote by the City Plan Board allows the sorority to continue vying for a house without adhering to certain building restrictions that normally are placed on buildings in a historic Gainesville neighborhood.

Because of the vote, the sorority will not have to follow certain guidelines such as the size of a porch or height of the house. Had the vote not passed, they may have been required to redraft plans for the home.

The three-story house is expected to be situated near Southwest 13th Street and Southwest Eighth Avenue, near Beaty Towers.

The decision came despite concerns about the board’s voting process.

“We [have] broken procedure for the first time in my experience on the planning board,” said board member Peter Polshek, the only member to vote against the plan.

Usually, petitions to the board are submitted to its staff, who examine and analyze them, but that was not done in this case, Polshek said.

The sorority had to look for the housing exemptions because the house will be in the historical University Heights area directly west of campus.

The housing standards that were exempted partially stem from efforts to preserve historic neighborhoods, but the construction of the sorority house will require that three buildings be demolished.

Shelagh Forrest, a Gainesville resident and homeowner, disagrees with the demolition.

“I think that it’s terrible. Those beautiful old stone cottages is what gives Gainesville its charming, small-town appeal,” she said.

“I think it’s disgraceful for developers to participate in the destruction of Gainesville’s most historic buildings.”

She said the meeting’s notice didn’t specify three houses would be affected by the permitting, but she added there could be legitimate reasons for the action.

Sorority members would not answer questions for this story.
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Old 10-18-2003, 12:07 AM
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Living near Annapolis, MD, a very old town, I see far too often the results of an Historic Preservation Committee gone overboard. I believe in preserving historic architecture but the fact remains that just because a property is old doesn't mean that it's worth saving. Sometimes old is just...old.

The neighbors needn't worry because this house will be beautiful and worthy addition to the area.
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:04 AM
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Even though I am getting my Master's in Architecture and Historic Preservation (and just read a zillion court cases about land use which reminded me why I didn't go to law school), those stone cottages weren't in that great condition. I remember seeing them when my sister went to UF, and then again when I thought I might live in Beaty (late 90s).

There is a court case that covers the rights of not-for-profit organizations in regards to the historic districts, and if that holds true for Alachua, the preservationists have a good tool in this battle. If it's in a historic district, the sorority might have a problem on their hands.
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:12 AM
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a home for dz

best wishes to delta zeta on their new home, and here's hoping that impediments are not thrown up by neighbors and "hysterical" preservationists do not slow the building process down. i am sure that their home will be in good taste and will enhance the neighborhood. lisa
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Old 10-18-2003, 02:59 PM
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Is it possible that the cottages can be moved? When places are that "historic" that's sometimes done...
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Old 10-19-2003, 09:33 AM
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As a "hysterical preservationist," we've always learned that a building MUST be saved if it is in a federal or local historic district. If DZ owns the cottages now, they can tear them down. If the University owns them, chances are they are using state monies to tear them down--a huge no-no. If the building is significant--not just old, but has some historic significance, it isn't going anywhere. I think a lot of people fail to understand Historic Preservation--we're not trying to save every old building--just the ones that make a positive contribution to the urban fabric. There are plenty of eyesores that everyone wants to have torn down.

Moving is a last resort, as it normally costs 2-3 times the documented value of the property, and the owner will usually cry poor if asked to move them to a safer area. We learned that they would rather demolish and rebuild in another space than move them, since part of the "significance" of the building is its site.

Because I know these are pretty run down, I'm not too sad to see them go.
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Old 10-19-2003, 12:48 PM
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Those cottages are still there? Eeesh..

Well, I'm all for historic preservation, but I don't think the owners of those cottages did too much to preserve their "history."

I'd call them more "charming" than "historical" - but if they've gotten that designation, then it's more red tape to go through.

Of course, like with many college towns, many of the locals are usually anti-college/university. This is how it is in Gainesville.

I am thrilled that DZ has immediate plans to build a house. Pi Beta Phi wait 8 or so years before they ever had one (I'm not sure of the reason why), so hooray to adding more homes for greeks (and more greeks, period!; )
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Old 10-19-2003, 04:38 PM
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Well, I'm all for historical preservation, but I don't think the owners of those cottages did too much to preserve their "history."
kdonline has made an interesting point. This may be a discussion for another thread, but wouldn't the owners of these cottages have an obligation to keep them in good shape? Or is the attitude more like, "these old houses are beat up eyesores but they've been here a long time so it's okay that they look like crap." (or something along those lines)
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Old 10-19-2003, 05:19 PM
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We have a house similar to this situation at Austin Peay in Tennessee. The poor old thing is on the national registry due to it's unique architecture and the history surrounding its placement. However, ITS FREAKING FALLING APART AND UGLY AS HELL!!!!! The university bought it and wanted to tear it down a year or so ago but its protected. However, this is one of those situations where they need to either fix it up or tear it down because its not doing any good as an eye-sore to the community...

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Old 10-19-2003, 10:55 PM
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that makes me want to head to gainesville and check it out. sometimes i really miss living there.
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Old 10-20-2003, 10:49 AM
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Okay...

1. It's "historic preservation," not historical. That irks me almost as "definately."
2. Even if a property is registered, it can still be torn down. The National Register is simply a list. You just can't use federal funds to demolish it. It just appears that Austin Peay needs to find private funds (might be kinda hard for a state U, though). If it's in a historic district, it's not going anywhere.

Sometimes I miss Gainesville, too. But I think I made a good decision not to go there.
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