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10-15-2014, 04:07 PM
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Big / Little Adoption
Hello All,
I'm exploring the idea of bring up the idea to my chapter to allow me to be adopted by another big. There are many reasons why I am suggesting this.
When I join my organization my big was given to me, the only time we hung out was right after he was given to me and one other time. He was never there as a mentor, he was never there if I needed him. I would try to text or call time and I would never get an answer, while I asked other brothers to text him and he would respond right away, and still never answer me. He always seemed to avoid me. In my organization it is custom to get matching letters from the big to the little. My big never gave me letters, he told me if I wanted them I would have to pay for them myself.(not because he didnt have money, he just didnt wanna have them), he has not graduated and is no longer in my chapter. Since then another brother has said he would adopt me into his tree. My big's big was never there for him and his big was never there for him. So my branch of my tree is lets just say worthless... So im wanting to get adopted by another brother so my littles actually have a tree to look up to. Has this ever happened in your organization? If so how has it happened?
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10-15-2014, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lmbird0
Hello All,
I'm exploring the idea of bring up the idea to my chapter to allow me to be adopted by another big. There are many reasons why I am suggesting this.
When I join my organization my big was given to me, the only time we hung out was right after he was given to me and one other time. He was never there as a mentor, he was never there if I needed him. I would try to text or call time and I would never get an answer, while I asked other brothers to text him and he would respond right away, and still never answer me. He always seemed to avoid me. In my organization it is custom to get matching letters from the big to the little. My big never gave me letters, he told me if I wanted them I would have to pay for them myself.(not because he didnt have money, he just didnt wanna have them), he has not graduated and is no longer in my chapter. Since then another brother has said he would adopt me into his tree. My big's big was never there for him and his big was never there for him. So my branch of my tree is lets just say worthless... So im wanting to get adopted by another brother so my littles actually have a tree to look up to. Has this ever happened in your organization? If so how has it happened?
Thanks.
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There have been a few threads like this, but on the sorority side. I think much of the advice given would apply here, so do a search.
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10-15-2014, 04:35 PM
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I have tried to look, but the reasoning Ive found was very selfish, and i didnt find anything about what the chapters did, i seen alot of bashing
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10-15-2014, 06:01 PM
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See how others in your chapter are receptive to the idea. You are unlikely to find a definitive answer here.
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10-15-2014, 06:25 PM
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You had a bad big. That sucks. If you want to give your little a tree to look up to, YOU can be a good big. Great people come out of dysfunctional families all the time.
Realize that when a family line dies it's not just about the current members, but about the alumni from 5 -10 -20 years ago who are disappointed when their line dies out.
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10-15-2014, 06:53 PM
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Been there done that. Accept the offer and get the letters. Don't dwell on it just take action.
Most groups that I'm aware of don't follow the trees that closely. I couldn't even tell you who half my grand lils are, let alone their lils. So the great great grand big of your stinky big won't know.
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10-15-2014, 06:58 PM
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I have no idea who my grand-big was/is nor my little's little....don't much care either 50 years down the road from it all...never did, to tell you the truth. It just wasn't that much of a deal back then...and I fail to see the point in all this ado about it anyway. We're all members in full - having a big or a little that you know/get along with/see regularly really doesn't have anything to do with the goals of the founders...
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10-15-2014, 07:42 PM
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At some places, it's not a big deal. But at some places, it is. The same as participating in intramurals, attending football games in a group, living in the house, and 8 zillion other things we talk about on here that vary BY CAMPUS.
Obviously there are certain traditions in this guy's chapter regarding big and little that are important enough that he's upset they weren't fulfilled, which is why "just do it, no one cares anyway" is a really bad answer.
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10-15-2014, 07:51 PM
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I see your point, but would argue "it sucks, be a better big" is also not a great answer because of the same "vary by campus" reason.
OP - You know what your chapter is like. Hopefully we've offered a balanced view with two extremes and it'll help you make a decision.
Good luck!
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10-15-2014, 07:54 PM
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You know, 33, you are very good at giving your opinion about campuses where you have no experience so I really have a hard time grasping why you feel the need to castigate somone else for doing the same thing while stating it was THEIR experience.
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10-15-2014, 08:54 PM
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You know, 33, you are very good at giving your opinion about campuses where you have no experience so I really have a hard time grasping why you feel the need to castigate somone else for doing the same thing while stating it was THEIR experience.
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If suggesting someone think of people other than themselves is "castigating" them, just call me the Castigator!
And seeing as you had a whole herd of cows over someone suggesting housing options for a chapter - without bothering to ask (most likely because you didn't care or because it wasn't in your frame of reference) what the campus is like, all I can say is, pot, meet kettle.
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10-15-2014, 09:05 PM
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If suggesting someone think of people other than themselves is "castigating" them, just call me the Castigator!
And seeing as you had a whole herd of cows over someone suggesting housing options for a chapter - without bothering to ask (most likely because you didn't care or because it wasn't in your frame of reference) what the campus is like, all I can say is, pot, meet kettle.
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Seeing as I served as our Fraternity Director of Housing and currently serve on the NPC Housing Committee, I think I know a little something about housing.
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10-15-2014, 09:10 PM
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Oh, sillypie me. I didn't realize this was the "throw what you know part II" thread.
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10-15-2014, 09:11 PM
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Oh, sillypie me. I didn't realize this was the "throw what you know part II" thread.
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You are - so why can't someone else????
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10-15-2014, 07:59 PM
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Also, one thing to ask the position in charge of new members- can you actually officially change? I know that in Alpha Gamma Delta you can't change your Sister-Mother, but in other organisations you can!
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