Chapters at *Conservative* Religious Schools?

[naraht]

Does your Fraternity/Sorority have any *active* chapters at schools which have any of the following:
1) Required Chapel (missing more than a certain number can lead to a student being expelled)
2) Requirement of being an active believing member of a specific religion
3) Honor code with Heterosexual intercourse outside of Marriage can lead to expulsion
4) Honor code where any Homosexual activity can lead to expulsion.

[clemsongirl]

ADPi doesn't have any chapters at any schools like that that I know of, looking through our chapter list. Are there any schools that do have national GLOs present? My understanding was that any conservative religious schools that hadn't outlawed Greek life already were probably going to have locals only.

[ARKTTKA]

Baylor comes to mind ,but they aren't as *conservative* as they once were. AXO, ADPi, Chi O, DDD, KAO, KKG, PBP and ZTA are on campus.

[NutBrnHair]

Union University (Jackson, TN) is the most conservative I can think of -- NPC chapters there: Chi Omega, ZTA and Kappa Delta

[LXA SE285]

Samford University (my sister's alma mater) has required convocation, which is sort of like chapel. Students have to earn a certain number of convocation credits to graduate—they scan your ID card to verify that you attended.

The code of conduct prohibits premarital sex, straight or gay. "Homosexual acts" used to be singled out for punishment, but that wording was dropped a few years back.

Also, social dancing on campus was prohibited until a few years ago—hence the long-running joke:

Q: Why don't Baptists believe in sex before marriage?
A: Because it might lead to dancing.

ETA Greeks at Samford:

http://samford.orgsync.com/GL_chapters

[amIblue?]

Belmont used to have very strict conduct rules, but I don't know if they do any more or not. They've only had greek life there in recent times.

[bu1904]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Belmont used to have very strict conduct rules, but I don't know if they do any more or not. They've only had greek life there in recent times.

Belmont doesn't have any of the rules above. About 20 years ago they had chapel, but now students have to complete about 60 Convocation credits, which is a series of short seminars and community service hours. Students have several years to complete the requirements and only 10 of those credits focus on religion. The only honor code is the basic one every university has about academic integrity. There is a religious requirement for faculty but not for students. Belmont is actually a fairly liberal school school despite what most people think.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by bu1904

There is a religious requirement for faculty but not for students. Belmont is actually a fairly liberal school school despite what most people think.

NOPE. If a school discriminates based on religion in its hiring practices, it is not "liberal."

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

NOPE. If a school discriminates based on religion in its hiring practices, it is not "liberal."

Yup.
From the current Faculty Handbook...

2.5.1.4. Faculty Selection and Religious Preference
Belmont University may discriminate on religious grounds in its employment practices in order to
fulfill its mission. The Board of Trustees re-affirmed this policy during its April 1999 meeting, stating
that the university can best fulfill its vision and mission statements when the faculty is composed of
persons who confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and whose lives reflect this confession by, among other
things, evidencing an active involvement in a local church that is committed to this belief.

But it doesn't meet the *Conservative* characteristics that I posted at the beginning of the thread (just Conservative rather than *Conservative*, I guess)

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

NOPE. If a school discriminates based on religion in its hiring practices, it is not "liberal."

I wouldn't quite say that. It is possible—both for individuals and institutions—to be liberal as to some things, conservative as to others, and somewhere in between on still others. I'm not saying Belmont is or isn't liberal—I know next to nothing about Belmont—but I'd never say a conservative (but legally permissible) stance on one issue defines an institution over all. Belmont may not be bastion of liberalism, but despite a more conservative view on wanting religious faculty, it could still be "fairly liberal" overall, which was the claim.

[maconmagnolia]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I wouldn't quite say that. It is possible—both for individuals and institutions—to be liberal as to some things, conservative as to others, and somewhere in between on still others. I'm not saying Belmont is or isn't liberal—I know next to nothing about Belmont—but I'd never say a conservative (but legally permissible) stance on one issue defines an institution over all. Belmont may not be bastion of liberalism, but despite a more conservative view on wanting religious faculty, it could still be "fairly liberal" overall, which was the claim.

I agree. Maybe the poster meant that the student body is fairly liberal?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I wouldn't quite say that. It is possible—both for individuals and institutions—to be liberal as to some things, conservative as to others, and somewhere in between on still others. I'm not saying Belmont is or isn't liberal—I know next to nothing about Belmont—but I'd never say a conservative (but legally permissible) stance on one issue defines an institution over all. Belmont may not be bastion of liberalism, but despite a more conservative view on wanting religious faculty, it could still be "fairly liberal" overall, which was the claim.

I don't view it as just wanting religious faculty, I view it as isolating their students from opposing viewpoints.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by bu1904

Belmont doesn't have any of the rules above. About 20 years ago they had chapel, but now students have to complete about 60 Convocation credits, which is a series of short seminars and community service hours. Students have several years to complete the requirements and only 10 of those credits focus on religion. The only honor code is the basic one every university has about academic integrity. There is a religious requirement for faculty but not for students. Belmont is actually a fairly liberal school school despite what most people think.

Twenty years ago there was way more involved than chapel. There were strict curfews among other strict conduct rules. I'm glad for you that it has become less stringent, but don't kid yourself that you're in an environment that is even fairly liberal.

[DubaiSis]

I have a friend who went to a Big 10 school and (duh) loved it. She is a church goer but also a hard lefty. She really wants her daughter to have a similar (read: raucous) collegiate experience. Daughter wants to attend a VERY conservative school where the girls are required to wear dresses. Holy reverse rebellion Batman!

[naraht]

Union and Samford definitely meet the criteria. Baylor seems to be on the edge, cohabitation is listed as something that counts as misconduct, but some of the rest seems fuzzy.