A rather sadly odd hazing at Univ. of Conn.

[SOM]

My jaw dropped when I first heard of this. This is so far out of dumb, dumber and dumbest. Down right stupid and so unnecessary. Why did a Fraternity get itself involved in a Sorority hazing? http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...249127751.html

[sigmagirl2000]

This one has a bit more information: Hartford Courant Article.

Bizarre either way.

[formerccd]

The really strange thing is she is a current sister. This indecent took place Thursday, she woke up Friday in the hospital and by Friday night she was giving interviews on the news. I am not saying it did not happen, or does not constitute hazing, but the whole situation is very strange.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by formerccd

The really strange thing is she is a current sister. This indecent took place Thursday, she woke up Friday in the hospital and by Friday night she was giving interviews on the news. I am not saying it did not happen, or does not constitute hazing, but the whole situation is very strange.

It's strange that someone was hazed, ended up in the hospital, and reported the incident immediately?

[SOM]

Originally Posted by formerccd

The really strange thing is she is a current sister. This indecent took place Thursday, she woke up Friday in the hospital and by Friday night she was giving interviews on the news. I am not saying it did not happen, or does not constitute hazing, but the whole situation is very strange.

This story maybe one of those that evolves under investigation. It does seem that she is a 21 year old Active member.

[formerccd]

That is what I feel. There seems to be more to this story than is being initially reported. I am from CT and it has literally been on every news station every night since Friday with different snippits and slightly different information. I am interested if these two chapters have gotten in trouble together before, it seemed to have been insinuated by one of the stations. It is surely just a strange (and clearly unfortunate) story. And yes, thank goodness for good RA's.

Originally Posted by SOM

This story maybe one of those that evolves under investigation. It does seem that she is a 21 year old Active member.

[formerccd]

No, just that she was getting interviewed on the news about three hours after getting released. I would absolutely expect that she reported it immediately, to both the University and to the police. The news stations she also contacted at the same time. I would expect to be shaken up, and exhausted from being in the hospital, not necessarily being interviewed by four news stations the same day I was released. I applaud her for speaking out about the incident, the timing it just all really fast.

[SoCalGirl]

This part of the second article was interesting to me.

Holt said since joining the sorority last fall, she has not experienced any hazing involving drinking but said after speaking with police, she might have been involved in another hazing incident.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Nice victim blaming, guys!

[DrPhil]

Minus the alcohol**, there are GLOs in which some of these types of things are part of tradition. That includes fraternities and sororities handling each other's "pledges."

It can still be considered hazing in certain environments and especially since this article deals with NPC and IFC GLOs that tend not to have this practice. But some of you need to realize that there is a world outside of what you are accustomed to.

**Some NPC and IFC chapters have engaged in "physical hazing" but NPC and IFC are more likely to engage in "alcohol hazing."

[SOM]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Minus the alcohol**, there are GLOs in which some of these types of things are part of tradition. That includes fraternities and sororities handling each other's "pledges."

It can still be considered hazing in certain environments and especially since this article deals with NPC and IFC GLOs that tend not to have this practice. But some of you need to realize that there is a world outside of what you are accustomed to.

**Some NPC and IFC chapters have engaged in "physical hazing" but NPC and IFC are more likely to engage in "alcohol hazing."

DrPhil: Would you please clarify/amplify what you mean by "tradition" and "world outside of what you are accustomed to"?

I do not know anything about the KKG Chapter but the SAE house is far from being one of our oldest Chapters.

And no matter how one looks at it, the actions by the Brothers of the house, The Chapter, The Brotherhood violated everything and anything one can think of in terms of RM, ethics, morals, code of conduct, policies and more than likely a few laws ginve the information from current news reporting. Which perhaps why is is outside of the what we are accustomed to. And expect from our members.

Or is your comment more innocent than I took at first glance? Are you talking about "Big Brother/Little Sister" type events?

[DrPhil]

If she was an active when this occurred, it can still be classified as hazing but the implications are different.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SOM

DrPhil: Would you please clarify/amplify what you mean by "tradition" and "world outside of what you are accustomed to"?

Reading her complete post, and knowing what GLO she belongs to, I think she is saying that while this type of hazing may be surprising or seem unusual in an NPC or NIC/IFC context, it might not be as surprising or unusual in another context, such as NPHC fraternities and sororities.

[33girl]

This sounds like underground little sister pledging and zero to do with the sorority, other than that they probably hang out with the SAEs together.

On another note, I had to AAAAGGGH when I saw that "the station reached out to the sorority. " This is the latest bit of corporatespeak to annoy the piss out of me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Reading her complete post, and knowing what GLO she belongs to, I think she is saying that while this type of hazing may be surprising or seem unusual in an NPC or NIC/IFC context, it might not be as surprising or unusual in another context, such as NPHC fraternities and sororities.

Right.

When people research pledging and hazing across GLOs, hazing investigations and responses to hazing allegations become less about shock and awe that humans would engage in certain behaviors.