LSU frat members taunt Kent State Massacre

[PersistentDST]

Some LSU fraternity members made a highly disrespectful banner when Kent State University's football team came to compete. The banner said, "Getting massacred is nothing new to Kent State." The massacre at Kent State is an important (and very serious) part of our history, and in addition one of the people who was slain was a member of Alpha Xi Delta. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

http://m.brobible.com/college/articl...ent-state-sign

They also issued an apology:

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/314...State-for-sign

I wish people would THINK before they do things!!! Everything isn't comedy.

[cinder1965]

Good grief....their parents must be so proud.

[Leslie Anne]

Wow! That was really idiotic.

[Nanners52674]

This honestly sounds like something one would submit to TFM and they thought it would be funny to put it on a banner. Immature idiots.

[Woof]

Originally Posted by Nanners52674

This honestly sounds like something one would submit to TFM and they thought it would be funny to put it on a banner. Immature idiots.

At least TFM didn't find it funny.

http://totalfratmove.com/%CE%94%CE%9...nt-yard-sign/?

[WestcoastWonder]

Thats disgusting. I can never wrap my head around how some people can joke about such tragedies.

DKE issued an apology in the form of another banner:

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by WestcoastWonder

Thats disgusting. I can never wrap my head around how some people can joke about such tragedies.

DKE issued an apology in the form of another banner:

Pet peeve: I hate apologies that begin "We would like to apologize . . . ." If you'd like to do it, then just do it and say "We apologize."

[tootiepie2]

These boys are known for their inappropriate game day banners. Unfortunately this isn't the worst.

[badgeguy]

Gee, an I thought DKEs were supposed to be the intelligent guys, having been founded at Yale, and having a recent President as member.....oh, I guess this chapter never got those memos......

[DrPhil]

Those are hesitant and sometimes less sincere apologies. It reminds me of "I apologize if YOU were offended" and "I apologize if it came across that way."

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Those are hesitant and sometimes less sincere apologies. It reminds me of "I apologize if YOU were offended" and "I apologize if it came across that way."

Exactly.

[TonyB06]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Pet peeve: I hate apologies that begin "We would like to apologize . . . ." If you'd like to do it, then just do it and say "We apologize."

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Those are hesitant and sometimes less sincere apologies. It reminds me of "I apologize if YOU were offended" and "I apologize if it came across that way."

I see them differently. The former is just bad writing. The latter is "hey, this ain't really no skin off my nose, but if it'll make you feel better, sorry."

[DrPhil]

It would be "bad writing" if people only said that in writing. People also use "I/we would like to apologize" in speaking.

It also reminds me of when people begin sentences with "let me say this" and other ways to begin sentences. I dislike such sentence introductions but sometimes use phrases like "with all due respect" if I am cautious because of the audience.

[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It would be "bad writing" if people only said that in writing. People also use "I/we would like to apologize" in speaking.

It also reminds me of when people begin sentences with "let me say this" and other ways to begin sentences. I dislike such sentence introductions but sometimes use phrases like "with all due respect" if I am cautious because of the audience.

Caution, hesitation, anxiety, and sometimes empathy can also lead people to beat around the bush when they need to say something difficult. Doesn't have to be difficult for them it may be difficult for the audience. They may also put a hand in front of their mouth, a supposed tell for lying, but it can be related to conflict inside the speaker . . . having to talk about something they don't want to confront for whatever reason.

[dekeguy]

Perhaps we might review the bidding here. In 1970 tensions at Kent State were high and building. The night before the Kent State riot a mob burned down the ROTC building. On the day of the riot a howling mob of 2000 advanced on a handfull of National Guard personnel pelting them with potentially lethal bricks, rocks, and bottles. The guardsmen fell back but were blocked by a chainlink fence through which they could not retreat.
When threatened by imminent violent contact with an angry mob and with no place to go to get out of the way the guardsmen fired. As is obvious from the number of hits vs. the number of rounds fired most shots were over the heads of the rioters in an attempt to break up this very real and proximate danger to the guardsmen.
The Kent State community bears great responsibility for what happened. One cannot participate in potentially lethal actions and not expect a response from those on the receiving end of those actions. Particularly when the guardsmen were acting as the in loco police authority and the mob was involved in riot. The unpopularity of the Viet Nam War does not confer a license for riot and murderous actions on the mob.
Viewed in this light Kent State is hardly in a position to howl in protest over the comments referring to the riot by which they were the authors of their own calamity.
As to the sign itself, I am of two minds. It does not exactly follow the traditions of Southern Hospitality to a visiting team but on the other hand, on an undergraduate mindset level it points out the probable result of taking on a top rated SEC team. Granted that it may not be in the best of taste, but I don't know any DEKEs who carry around a copy of Emily Post.
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