Election Day Thread

adpimiz · #1 11-06-2012, 02:27 AM

My prediction: A few days from now, we will still not know who our new president is.

DeltaBetaBaby · #2 11-06-2012, 10:03 AM

It warmed my heart to hear some talking heads on CNN speculating on Paul Ryan's next career move.

MysticCat · #3 11-06-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by adpimiz

My prediction: A few days from now, we will still not know who our new president is.

I think we may know before the polls close on the West Coast/Hawaii and Alaska. If Romney loses Ohio, which seems pretty likely at this point, and if he loses Virginia and Florida, both of which seem more likely than not at this point (though I think Florida is a much closer call), it's over. (That's assuming that both candidates are winning in the states that have been considered "safe" for them or leaning strongly to them.) Even if Romney wins Florida, if he doesn't carry Ohio or Virginia, he pretty much has to win every other swing state, which at this point seems highly unlikely.

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It warmed my heart to hear some talking heads on CNN speculating on Paul Ryan's next career move.

Well, it certainly doesn't look like he helped the ticket in Wisconsin. But I assume he's a shoe-in for his congressional seat.

TonyB06 · #4 11-06-2012, 10:46 AM

For all of the spotlight on my native Ohio, I think Virginia may be an early "tell." If Obama wins it, game over. If Romney wins it, it'll go a while longer.

As was said upthread, taking what I've seen as pretty reliable lock/and leaning states for each candidate as a base, the president has a lot more ways to get to 270.

DeltaBetaBaby · #5 11-06-2012, 10:56 AM

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Well, it certainly doesn't look like he helped the ticket in Wisconsin. But I assume he's a shoe-in for his congressional seat.

Right, but when was the last time a VP candidate lost and went back to a congressional seat? I mean, I know that's what he'll do in the short term, but what else?

MysticCat · #6 11-06-2012, 09:43 PM

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I think we may know before the polls close on the West Coast/Hawaii and Alaska. If Romney loses Ohio, which seems pretty likely at this point, and if he loses Virginia and Florida, both of which seem more likely than not at this point (though I think Florida is a much closer call), it's over.

Well, I may have been overly optimistic about the timing, since even though the polls have closed in Virginia, there are still lots of people in line. They're saying they may not be through with voting until 11:00, and they've suspended count reports until everyone has voted.

amIblue? · #7 11-06-2012, 10:17 AM

I'm just ready for it to be over.

DeltaBetaBaby · #8 11-06-2012, 11:05 AM

There's a chance that all four states voting on marriage equality will get it right today. Honestly, that is more important to me than any candidate for office.

Mevara · #9 11-06-2012, 01:10 PM

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There's a chance that all four states voting on marriage equality will get it right today. Honestly, that is more important to me than any candidate for office.

I would love to second this point!!

adpimiz · #10 11-06-2012, 11:38 AM

I think it's a possibility for Romney to win the popular vote, but not the electoral vote.

DeltaBetaBaby · #11 11-06-2012, 11:49 AM

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I think it's a possibility for Romney to win the popular vote, but not the electoral vote.

I would love to see that happen, because I think it would make the NPVIC pick up steam in a big way. Most of the states that have approved it are left-leaning, but a Romney loss in the EC might motivate some right-leaning states to pass bills.

ASUADPi · #12 11-06-2012, 06:49 PM

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I think it's a possibility for Romney to win the popular vote, but not the electoral vote.

My dad heard this last week.

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I would love to see that happen, because I think it would make the NPVIC pick up steam in a big way. Most of the states that have approved it are left-leaning, but a Romney loss in the EC might motivate some right-leaning states to pass bills.

NPVIC? Is this something to change the Electoral College? I'm all about getting rid of the EC and going to popular vote. It seems like every election since I could vote there has been an EC fiasco. I'm so over it!

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I'm just ready for it to be over.

So with you there! I'm so glad that I no longer have to hear or see political ad's anymore.

amIblue? · #13 11-06-2012, 07:32 PM

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It seems like every election since I could vote there has been an EC fiasco.

Really? Exaggerate much? I've only been alive for one election in which it was an issue, much less eligible to vote in an election in which it was a problem.

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FWIW, since the popular vote became the norm for how states selected presidential electors (1832 for all states except South Carolina), there have only been three instances where the winner of the electoral college did not also win the popular vote -- 1876, 1888 and 2000.

Psi U MC Vito · #14 11-06-2012, 07:45 PM

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NPVIC? Is this something to change the Electoral College? I'm all about getting rid of the EC and going to popular vote. It seems like every election since I could vote there has been an EC fiasco. I'm so over it!

It will retain the EC, but it would require the states that are members of the agreement to have their electors vote for the national popular winner. I think the EC needs to go, but I don't think that the NPVIC is the solution.

DeltaBetaBaby · #15 11-06-2012, 08:01 PM

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It will retain the EC, but it would require the states that are members of the agreement to have their electors vote for the national popular winner. I think the EC needs to go, but I don't think that the NPVIC is the solution.

Once the NPVIC is in force, the popular vote winner would automatically win the electoral vote. Yes, it would be dumb to still have the electoral college at that point, but it would have the same effect.