Elections Structure

[pshsx1]

Just so we don't take over the thread about chapter meeting length, let's discuss elections here!!

I'm thinking maybe your structure, what positions you elect, and how long they go. Add more or less as you see fit.

We elect our Executive Board and our Standards Board all in one night. That lasts about 5-8 hours, depending on how many people are running. Total, that's 11 positions (President, VP of Finance, VP of Programming, VP of Recruitment, VP of Member Development, Chaplain, VP of Communications, Senior Marshall, Junior Marshall, Guide, Guard).

Also, after each round of speeches, we have an open discussion about the candidates, followed by voting. We use plurality to narrow the candidates down to two and offer a clear majority. In the case of a tie, the President decides, although the E-Board is allowed to offer their opinions.

[Senusret I]

My APO chapter is the same way. They definitely plan for a half-day meeting.

My Alpha chapter uses a nominating committee.

[Senusret I]

I want to add that I think open discussions are a terrible idea and I hate them.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I want to add that I think open discussions are a terrible idea and I hate them.

This. Unless it's an SEC redonkahuge chapter, you probably already have your opinions of the candidates formed, and nothing is really going to change that.

I'm a big fan of slating, and if the committe does their job right, it should be a one vote & done thing.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

This. Unless it's an SEC redonkahuge chapter, you probably already have your opinions of the candidates formed, and nothing is really going to change that.

I'm a big fan of slating, and if the committe does their job right, it should be a one vote & done thing.

Slating can mean a lot of different things. I think that the kind where people can't run if they aren't slated is a terrible idea, and I've seen it misused more than once.

I agree, though, that nobody is changing their minds based on open discussion.

In my mind, it's more like: candidates give speeches, 3 questions MAX, vote, revote if necessary.

Also, the year I ran elections, I asked someone to move to white ballot for the uncontested positions. One of the women was angry that she didn't get to give her prepared speech.

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

In my chapter we spread out the process. Two rounds of nomination, then on the third meeting we would have all the canidates make a speech and then vote. It could sometimes take a while because we have a trickle down system, and once a year we have the votes for the E-board which is six people in addition to the other 6? committee chairs.

We also do two rounds of nominations. I forgot to mention that since I didn't really think about it. You are also able to nominate candidates day of. We also allow "waterfalling." That is, if you lose the position you're running for, you can "waterfall" down to the next position and run for that until you win (or ultimately lose) a position.

Originally Posted by Kevin

Our undergraduate brothers are allowed to write their chapters' bylaws however they wish in order to hold elections in the best way for their own chapter. My chapters rules change several times a year. Some good ideas are incorporated, some bad. I can't complain about the results though. I don't think slating is a great idea. At least not for us. Democracy increases buy-in.

We have a guideline that HQ lays out for us, but we are allowed a lot of freedom, too, with the writing of our own chapter bylaws.

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I want to add that I think open discussions are a terrible idea and I hate them.

I hate open discussions with a fiery passion that burns brighter than a thousand suns.

[psusue]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I think there are so many variables in slating:

1) Do women formally express interest, or does the slating committee just pick people?

2) Does the slating committee pick only one per office?

3) Can a woman run against the slated candidate?

4) How is the slating committee picked?

These are all things that can make it good or bad, so I'm curious what people mean when they say "slating".

For Sigma (and I'll take this down if it's private information, but I really don't think that it is):

1.Women can formally express interest via a nomination box. You can self nominate or nominate another woman.

2. The slate committee then picks 1 woman per office. This is a closed process and no one except the slate committee knows what discussion went on. You receive a phone call only if you were slated but it is confidential and if you tell someone you are automatically disqualified. You only know if you are not slated by your lack of phone call.

3. Before a vote is taken, you can floor nominate someone (though this may not actually be true, we weren't sure so we still did it this year but were told that possibly we were not supposed to). There is no speech made, no questions asked, no discussion. They simply become another option on the ballot.

4. Slating committee is comprised of one woman from each grade level (freshman through super senior, if applicable). Each woman cannot be running for any position on officer board.

In some ways I like the system we have. I like that there isn't open discussion (that would be an absolute mess I'm sure) but I hate that there is literally no interview or application process. I feel like some women try for positions without a good understanding of what the position actually entails. Also there are some women that might be more qualified but because we don't have any written credentials we don't have a lot to go off of except prior sorority experience, as the slate committee (I was on ours this year). I think that it does reduce drama in some ways (since there is absolutely no campaigning) but it's not perfect. It works out okay though, most times.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by psusue

For Sigma (and I'll take this down if it's private information, but I really don't think that it is):

1.Women can formally express interest via a nomination box. You can self nominate or nominate another woman.

2. The slate committee then picks 1 woman per office. This is a closed process and no one except the slate committee knows what discussion went on. You receive a phone call only if you were slated but it is confidential and if you tell someone you are automatically disqualified. You only know if you are not slated by your lack of phone call.

3. Before a vote is taken, you can floor nominate someone (though this may not actually be true, we weren't sure so we still did it this year but were told that possibly we were not supposed to). There is no speech made, no questions asked, no discussion. They simply become another option on the ballot.

4. Slating committee is comprised of one woman from each grade level (freshman through super senior, if applicable). Each woman cannot be running for any position on officer board.

In some ways I like the system we have. I like that there isn't open discussion (that would be an absolute mess I'm sure) but I hate that there is literally no interview or application process. I feel like some women try for positions without a good understanding of what the position actually entails. Also there are some women that might be more qualified but because we don't have any written credentials we don't have a lot to go off of except prior sorority experience, as the slate committee (I was on ours this year). I think that it does reduce drama in some ways (since there is absolutely no campaigning) but it's not perfect. It works out okay though, most times.

So if there are no floor nominations, the slate just picks the women? Why would there be an election at all? I think I must be misreading something.

[psusue]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So if there are no floor nominations, the slate just picks the women? Why would there be an election at all? I think I must be misreading something.

There are always floor nominations, but yes, I guess if there were none people would just vote slate. That has happened in certain positions (ex: usually treasurer because only one person wanted it) but I think it'd be similar to running unopposed. Sorry I guess I didn't specify that the women are slated and then floor nominations are taken and then we all vote. Usually 60-80% of the people slated are elected, so there are some changes but the majority of people who are slated end up being elected.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So if there are no floor nominations, the slate just picks the women? Why would there be an election at all? I think I must be misreading something.

Well, it oculd be that the nays are more than the yeas in which case, I assume, they would go office by office. But if no one other than the slated people want to run by election time, it's going to be hard to find someone after the fact. And you have to have a motion to accept the slate by acclimation which, if you don't get, you have to go office by office. We even have a Nom Comm for our Fraternity Council but you can challenge for a position if you aren't slated. So, it 's never been a problem for us. Sorry this is a little rambling!

[Psi U MC Vito]

In my chapter we spread out the process. Two rounds of nomination, then on the third meeting we would have all the canidates make a speech and then vote. It could sometimes take a while because we have a trickle down system, and once a year we have the votes for the E-board which is six people in addition to the other 6? committee chairs.

[jazing]

We only elect E-Board, Social Chair, Pledgemaster, and Rush Chair. Otherwise you apply for a position, making elections much shorter. Still it takes over 2 hours when everything is up for election.

[Kevin]

Our undergraduate brothers are allowed to write their chapters' bylaws however they wish in order to hold elections in the best way for their own chapter. My chapters rules change several times a year. Some good ideas are incorporated, some bad. I can't complain about the results though. I don't think slating is a great idea. At least not for us. Democracy increases buy-in.

[IUHoosiergirl88]

My chapter personally slates, so elections taking awhile is merely to count votes.

My bf's fraternity, on the contrary, let's anyone who wants to run run and every candidate gives a speech, followed by discussion. This is for everything from President to tailgate chair (yes, tailgate chair). They're a very 'discussion happy' group.

[DubaiSis]

Unless it's changed, we do a slate, which can be contested (if that's the right word - you're welcome to run against the slated woman for any office). In my experience there were usually one or two positions that had an election. My opinion of slate has changed over the years. As long as the slate committee is after the best interests of the chapter I think it can minimize a lot of negativity and stress in the chapter. While in college I wished we would just be more up front about who was interested in what jobs and campaign directly as opposed to being sort of back-office politics.