Hazing And Black Colleges: Is The Practice Of Hazing More Prevalent At HBCUs?

[SOM]

Hazing And Black Colleges: Is The Practice Of Hazing More Prevalent At HBCUs? Can The Practice Be Stopped?

Roland Martin and Prof. Ricky Jones join Anderson Cooper on AC360 to discuss the perceived culture of hazing at historically Black colleges and universities.

http://rolandmartinreports.com/blog/...stopped-video/

[DrPhil]

LOL @ the concept of this being an HBCU thing.

I like Alpha Man Roland Martin and I agree with what he said in the video. I had to rewatch the video because I apparently missed much of what he said about this not being an HBCU thing. He is saying that regardless of the institution, there are issues with hazing.

Dr. Jones has been studying HBCU and Black Greek hazing for a long time and is part of StopHazing.org. I know this is part of his research and community interests and goals. But, Kappas, get your frat. He was correct about the different type of hazing that is more likely to occur at predominantly white groups. However, that is still hazing. We are not ranking hazing, are we? If so, that gets back to how BGLOs have pledge processes that not every BGLOer considers "real hazing" and they use that rationale to defy the "pledge ban."

This was also a topic on Dr. Drew this evening. Needless to say, I changed the channel.

[Cen1aur 1963]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

We are not ranking hazing, are we? If so, that gets back to how BGLOs have pledge processes that not every BGLOer considers "real hazing" and they use that rationale to defy the "pledge ban."

I agree with this.

[knight_shadow]

This was all the buzz on my T_witter account. I was bummed I missed it, but I'm glad to see this link. Thanks for posting.

[LettersOnMyChst]

Seeing as how only a handful of colleges in the country are HBCUs and the fact that hazing as been going on for generations...

I'd have to say no.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by LettersOnMyChst

Seeing as how only a handful of colleges in the country are HBCUs and the fact that hazing as been going on for generations...

I'd have to say no.

How do these two things relate to the topic at hand??

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by 33girl

How do these two things relate to the topic at hand??

The person on CNN was essentially saying that hazing is a Black Greek thing.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The person on CNN was essentially saying that hazing is a Black Greek thing.

Not really since he does discuss hazing at PWI's and NIC fraternities. The point he was trying to make was that hazing is more tolerated by administrators at HBCU's and seen as GLO's "just doing their thing".

[naraht]

One thing that I think may affect the situation with HBCUs/NPHCs and hazing...

I went to Carnegie-Mellon, which had 12 Fraternity Houses in the Fraternity owned quadrangle. At various times in the last 20 years, they've had from 11 to 14 recognized NIC fraternities on campus. Not long after I left, one of the Fraternities got removed from campus and its charter revoked for Hazing. It is entirely possible that that Fraternity may not come back for another 25 years or more. The fact that a Carnegie-Mellon University student would not be able to pledge that particular NIC fraternity would be viewed as largely irrelevant by the administration.

At an HBCU, OTOH, I can't see an administration doing that. At most an NPHC group will be removed from campus for 5 years in the event of non-fatal hazing and 10 for fatal hazing. This is especially true with the disconnect change over to the non-pledging intake process. Since all pledging is not done under the official auspices of the chapter, the hazing isn't either. So why pull the charter? There seems to be an unwillingness to be in a situation where a student would come to an HBCU and *not* have the opportunity to join an NPHC chapter which has ever existed there...

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by LettersOnMyChst

Seeing as how only a handful of colleges in the country are HBCUs . . . .

Only a handful? The US Depargment of Education lists around 100. There are 8 just within a two-hour drive of where I live