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Old 04-14-2011, 04:05 PM
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The Truth about Pledgeship

I just want to shed some light on the real situation facing fraternities in the South and especially Texas. I know that some moderator might delete this because the essence of this issue does not want to be realized. Although fraternities say that they do not "haze" anymore, this is a huge myth. I was told that I was rushing a fraternity that did not condone hazing, and guess what, the first meeting they are checking us for wires and then it comes. 8 weeks of hell, including an actual hell weekend. This is a serious issue, and the national organizations are turning there back. I know that every IFC fraternity at my University "educates" as they say now there pledges and I dont care if people dont believe it, it is the truth. Furthermore, I am of a firm belief now that education between pledge brothers builds that sense of brotherhood that you cannot obtain with a different process. Lets face it, the common roots of fraternities hazed, and today it is not nearly as harsh as it was back then, however, it still exists. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, and also, does anyone want to anonymously admit that their chapter educates? I hope this is a beneficial forum for this highly important issue in greek life.
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:09 PM
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I just want to shed some light on the real situation facing fraternities in the South and especially Texas. I know that some moderator might delete this because the essence of this issue does not want to be realized. Although fraternities say that they do not "haze" anymore, this is a huge myth. I was told that I was rushing a fraternity that did not condone hazing, and guess what, the first meeting they are checking us for wires and then it comes. 8 weeks of hell, including an actual hell weekend. This is a serious issue, and the national organizations are turning there back. I know that every IFC fraternity at my University "educates" as they say now there pledges and I dont care if people dont believe it, it is the truth. Furthermore, I am of a firm belief now that education between pledge brothers builds that sense of brotherhood that you cannot obtain with a different process. Lets face it, the common roots of fraternities hazed, and today it is not nearly as harsh as it was back then, however, it still exists. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, and also, does anyone want to anonymously admit that their chapter educates? I hope this is a beneficial forum for this highly important issue in greek life.
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:11 PM
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I just want to shed some light on the real situation facing fraternities in the South and especially Texas. I know that some moderator might delete this because the essence of this issue does not want to be realized. Although fraternities say that they do not "haze" anymore, this is a huge myth. I was told that I was rushing a fraternity that did not condone hazing, and guess what, the first meeting they are checking us for wires and then it comes. 8 weeks of hell, including an actual hell weekend. This is a serious issue, and the national organizations are turning there back. I know that every IFC fraternity at my University "educates" as they say now there pledges and I dont care if people dont believe it, it is the truth. Furthermore, I am of a firm belief now that education between pledge brothers builds that sense of brotherhood that you cannot obtain with a different process. Lets face it, the common roots of fraternities hazed, and today it is not nearly as harsh as it was back then, however, it still exists. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, and also, does anyone want to anonymously admit that their chapter educates? I hope this is a beneficial forum for this highly important issue in greek life.
LOL!! Sorry, that part just killed me over here...
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:16 PM
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LOL!! Sorry, that part just killed me over here...
You didn't get checked for wires when you came to your first pledge meeting? SKATER!
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:25 PM
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You didn't get checked for wires when you came to your first pledge meeting? SKATER!
Only because wireless devices were not around when I pledged. But they did check to make sure I did not have one of these in my backpack:

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Old 04-14-2011, 05:25 PM
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Only because wireless devices were not around when I pledged. But they did check to make sure I did not have one of these in my backpack:

Looks like my old block when I was young in NYC before I moved to Jersey ...guy might be a realtive... Tio tico?

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Old 04-14-2011, 04:29 PM
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We were just told to bring toner *confused*

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To the OP -- this isn't news. We know that some chapters of some organizations still haze. I would advise against saying "ALL THE FRATERNITIES HAZE," though, as you only had experience with one.

Read through the Risk Management thread.
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:41 PM
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We were just told to bring toner *confused*
Ummm, so about that... *backs out of thread*
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:53 PM
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Ummm, so about that... *backs out of thread*
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:46 PM
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I just want to shed some light on the real situation facing fraternities in the South and especially Texas. I know that some moderator might delete this because the essence of this issue does not want to be realized. Although fraternities say that they do not "haze" anymore, this is a huge myth. I was told that I was rushing a fraternity that did not condone hazing, and guess what, the first meeting they are checking us for wires and then it comes. 8 weeks of hell, including an actual hell weekend. This is a serious issue, and the national organizations are turning there back. I know that every IFC fraternity at my University "educates" as they say now there pledges and I dont care if people dont believe it, it is the truth. Furthermore, I am of a firm belief now that education between pledge brothers builds that sense of brotherhood that you cannot obtain with a different process. Lets face it, the common roots of fraternities hazed, and today it is not nearly as harsh as it was back then, however, it still exists. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, and also, does anyone want to anonymously admit that their chapter educates? I hope this is a beneficial forum for this highly important issue in greek life.
Let me see if I have this straight...your fraternity hazes, and you think this is awesome. Is there a question in there somewhere?
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Old 04-14-2011, 05:52 PM
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Let me see if I have this straight...your fraternity hazes, and you think this is awesome. Is there a question in there somewhere?
That was my response as well. I would dispute that it is more prevalent in the South or Texas. But whatever. The checked for wires thing was pretty funny.
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:55 PM
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I would dispute that it is more prevalent in the South or Texas.
I would also dispute that.

People go based on personal experiences, what they see (and how they interpret it), and/or word of mouth (pillow talk and loose lips sink ships). Those don't mean much at the aggregate-level.

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Old 04-14-2011, 09:40 PM
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I would also dispute that.

People go based on personal experiences, what they see (and how they interpret it), and/or word of mouth (pillow talk and loose lips sink ships). Those doesn't mean much at the aggregate-level.
I like, "the plural of anecdote is not data," myself.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:50 PM
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I like, "the plural of anecdote is not data," myself.
For the record, if this was a designed study on hazing, singular and plural anecdotes could be used as qualitative and quantitative data. That doesn't mean that what is found at the individual-level can instantly be aggregated and generalized, which is what I was saying.
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Old 04-14-2011, 05:22 PM
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Ok I'm calling Troll here LOL
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