Co-Ed Fraternity in need of some serious help!

[PsiXiOmicron]

hello everyone the last time i posted a thread on here i got lots of help. I am a member of a local co-ed fraternity and there is tons of drama going on between the other members. From this brother cheated on a sister with another sister to no one wanting to do community service and a big problem with on of our members leaking information to outsiders. I guess im begging for help because this 22 year old organization was left in me and another sisters hands and the other 4 active members are starting lots of problems. is there ANYTHING you can give me to stop all this. And oh yea there are 2 pledges thrown into the mix also.Please i need help.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PsiXiOmicron

hello everyone the last time i posted a thread on here i got lots of help. I am a member of a local co-ed fraternity and there is tons of drama going on between the other members. From this brother cheated on a sister with another sister to no one wanting to do community service and a big problem with on of our members leaking information to outsiders. I guess im begging for help because this 22 year old organization was left in me and another sisters hands and the other 4 active members are starting lots of problems. is there ANYTHING you can give me to stop all this. And oh yea there are 2 pledges thrown into the mix also.Please i need help.

qfp

[PsiXiOmicron]

i dont understand your reply

[AOII Angel]

Wow...6 members and you have one sleeping with two of the others. You have problems. Sounds like your fraternity has turned into a nightmare hook up club. Good luck, but it sounds like your members have no interest in making your 22 year organization work.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by PsiXiOmicron

i dont understand your reply

Quoted for posterity, in case what you originally wrote should . . . disappear.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Quoted for posterity, in case what you originally wrote should . . . disappear.

But, but, they said they'd posted here before. Funny that.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

But, but, they said they'd posted here before. Funny that.

So they did. And went coed after we told them that it might be a BAD idea if not done right. Hmm.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

So they did. And went coed after we told them that it might be a BAD idea if not done right. Hmm.

Ahhh, yes.

[33girl]

So in other words, you went co-ed and the only people who joined were people who wanted to get into the current sisters' pants, and that's the only reason they joined?

Unless your alumni/ae (who previously haven't done jack squat) can use some sort of pull to de-coedify you and help you get more members that don't suck, it sounds like your group is pretty much toast.

[Psi U MC Vito]

A 22 year old organization and all these issues? If I was you I would quickly start waving the red flag to your Alumi. They might be able to help more then we can. And to be blunt, they would hopefully care more then a bunch of strangers on the interwebs like us.

[AOII Angel]

Apples and oranges...

[dnall]

I just don't think doubling to 4-6-8 people would matter. It's still not viable. There's no synergy, you can't accomplish much, the work load is overwhelming, and it's not sustainable.

Most of us are used to a traditional growth paradigm that works over the long-term in an established org, but not at all in an expansion-like situation. I shared that link to the phired-up stuff. That's more the view an expansion team would take coming onto a campus. Within that paradigm, it certainly is possible to pull together 20 people in almost any circumstance, including I think this one. I didn't say it's easy, and they do have to go way out of the box. But, I mean this is a group that went co-ed at one point. I don't see that unconventional is beyond them.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by dnall

I just don't think doubling to 4-6-8 people would matter. It's still not viable. There's no synergy, you can't accomplish much, the work load is overwhelming, and it's not sustainable.

Most of us are used to a traditional growth paradigm that works over the long-term in an established org, but not at all in an expansion-like situation. I shared that link to the phired-up stuff. That's more the view an expansion team would take coming onto a campus. Within that paradigm, it certainly is possible to pull together 20 people in almost any circumstance, including I think this one. I didn't say it's easy, and they do have to go way out of the box. But, I mean this is a group that went co-ed at one point. I don't see that unconventional is beyond them.

You are thinking in a paradigm that is not applicable to the situation presented. A national's expansion is not comparable to a local's continued existence, just as a "traditional growth paradigm" is not applicable here.

A handful of people is more realistic than reaching 20.

[DrPhil]

For the record, local GLOs aren't the only GLOs that don't need as many as 20 interests-turned-applicants to charter a chapter. Some NPHC orgs don't require as many as 20 interests-turned-applicants.

[NETrySIG89]

I think setting goals like 20, more than 20, 15, etc is weak because it binds you to those goals. If you get 8 pledges but you wanted 20 you're discounting those new guys. Those 8 could totally change the chapter and make it better, yet you're upset about not having 20.