I'm honestly a little appalled.

[fantASTic]

So I'm at a new school for graduate school right now and it has a large Greek Life segment. A couple weeks ago, I was walking around campus and saw a girl with a shirt that said "PIKE and Alpha Chi Omega Pre-Game Party 2010" and on the back, a picture of a tipped over beer pong cup with the phrase "One down, nine to go!". I was SHOCKED. I know there's still a lot of drinking in letters, etc that goes on behind closed doors but I did not realize it was so blatant. My undergrad was very strict on these things and if you were drinking in letters, OTHER Greeks would tell you off.

Is this standard at larger schools?? I am seriously appalled.

[SWTXBelle]

I'm with you - sorority letters should NOT be on a shirt celebrating drinking. I'm actually not a fan of ANY GLO having their letters on a shirt that would seem to absolutely feed into negative stereotypes.

(I'm now off to shake my cane at the crazy kids and get them off my lawn.)

[33girl]

I'm not sure it's a larger vs smaller thing as it is the culture of the campus in general. What's more appalling to me is the wastefulness of making a t-shirt for something as everyday as a pre-game party.

ETA: I'm guessing the shirt meant "pre-game" as in, a registered party that occurred before a big football game, rather than "pregaming" before going to an alcohol-free mixer or other event. No one can be THAT stupid (please God, don't prove me wrong).

[RaggedyAnn]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I'm not sure it's a larger vs smaller thing as it is the culture of the campus in general. What's more appalling to me is the wastefulness of making a t-shirt for something as everyday as a pre-game party.

ETA: I'm guessing the shirt meant "pre-game" as in, a registered party that occurred before a big football game, rather than "pregaming" before going to an alcohol-free mixer or other event. No one can be THAT stupid (please God, don't prove me wrong).

I agree.

[Alumiyum]

I think it's obnoxious and I would personally have a problem with it (I'm all for having a good time and I've had a lot of good times, but not in my letters), but it's a campus culture thing. There is no way in the world that would EVER happen on my campus, but I've definitely seen similar shirts from other schools.

[lucgreek]

At my school, the sororities would be racing to turn each other in over it. At places like U of I or UK, it would be completely fine.

[Sadfly]

We are supposed to get tshirts and banners approved by the Exec Board BEFORE they are purchased or displayed.

Yea, like that really happens!!

Never happened in the existence of my chapter as for as I know and I bet it never will.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Sadfly

We are supposed to get tshirts and banners approved by the Exec Board BEFORE they are purchased or displayed.

Yea, like that really happens!!

Never happened in the existence of my chapter as for as I know and I bet it never will.

Exec Board of what? The sorority? They're collegians like everyone else, I don't see how that would matter. Or do you mean Exec Board of Greeks or something?

PS: I think turning other Greeks in for things like this is on the same petty lines as turning sororities in when a PNM walks out of rush with glitter on the bottom of her shoe. If it's something that's deemed morally reprehensible by the rest of the campus, the punishment will take care of itself. If it's something that the campus as a whole deems acceptable, you'll only be screwing yourself, and is it really worth it to do that to your chapter just to get someone else in trouble? Save it for important things, like witnessing hazing or alcohol abuse.

[Kevin]

zomg. College kids playing beer pong?

Say it ain't so.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by Kevin

zomg. College kids playing beer pong?

Say it ain't so.

Playing beer pong - eh.

Associating your GLO with beer pong - ill-advised; tacky.

[WVU alpha phi]

This shirt wouldn't be a big deal on my campus. There may be one or two sororities that wouldn't wear it, but I don't see it causing a stir at all.

My chapter had to run all t-shirt designs by our advisor. She definitley wouldn't have approved.

[agzg]

It might not have been socially acceptable on your campus, but there's no NPC rule that bans drinking in letters, and my org doesn't ban it either. It might come off as trashy, but let's face it, so is much of greek life.

Regardless, different stokes different folks. As an alumna, however, it's certainly not something that you should get your panties in a twist about - it's different everywhere and you're not in a position to do anything to change it.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by agzg

It might not have been socially acceptable on your campus, but there's no NPC rule that bans drinking in letters, and my org doesn't ban it either. It might come off as trashy, but let's face it, so is much of greek life.

Regardless, different stokes different folks. As an alumna, however, it's certainly not something that you should get your panties in a twist about - it's different everywhere and you're not in a position to do anything to change it.

Ditto. Every campus is different as is every organization and every chapter of every organization. Years ago on my campus, AOII, KD, Phi Mu and Sig Kap ALL wore there bid day shirts (including stitched letters most years) to Pikefest where we competed in various games and drank lots of alcohol. No one thought anything of all of us "drinking in letters" on that one day even though we wouldn't be caught dead in a bar in letters. If you asked that girl about the shirt, I'm quite sure she could justify it while assuring you that they don't drink in letters.

[pshsx1]

All of the chapters at my school used to do that. It takes a major Risk Management incident (or Nationals stepping in) to change that.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

See, the thing is, in this particular incident, there is no actual alcohol being depicted on the shirt, is there? A cup and a ping pong ball? Open to interpretation, technically.