Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

[TitaniumGene]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_489050.html

Seriously?

[Kevin]

We can't just keep treating the federal government as if they have unlimited funds. I agree that eventually the benefits have to dry up. The dole is a temporary measure, not a way of life. There are jobs out there and if that fails, there's entrepreneurship.

[CougarGrad]

Originally Posted by Kevin

We can't just keep treating the federal government as if they have unlimited funds. I agree that eventually the benefits have to dry up. The dole is a temporary measure, not a way of life. There are jobs out there and if that fails, there's entrepreneurship.

No, the government doesn't have limited funds, but neither does most of America. Owning a small business costs money, and if it isn't up front, it's in the taxes that small businesses have to pay.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by CougarGrad

No, the government doesn't have limited funds, but neither does most of America. Owning a small business costs money, and if it isn't up front, it's in the taxes that small businesses have to pay.

You can start mowing lawns for <$1,000. People manage to come here from Mexico or elsewhere with zero startup capital and run those sorts of businesses. During the immigration debates we were all talking about those jobs Americans simply won't do.

Maybe some folks need to adjust their expectations/entitlement mentalities?

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by Kevin

You can start mowing lawns for <$1,000. People manage to come here from Mexico or elsewhere with zero startup capital and run those sorts of businesses. During the immigration debates we were all talking about those jobs Americans simply won't do.

Maybe some folks need to adjust their expectations/entitlement mentalities?

So if you lost your job as an attorney you'd be perfectly ok mowing lawns or being a dishwasher? Ok. You'll probably say yes just to win the argument but for some reason I doubt that's true. For anyone in that position who is educated and who has worked their way to the top of a company, being a landscaper or a dishwasher is probably a bigger slap in the face than getting laid off was.

I've been laid off. It sucked. I worked my ass off to find a new job because, as libramunoz said, I couldn't stand the looks I'd get from people when I told them that I was currently unemployed. Most of all, I couldn't stand how I felt about myself. Some psychologists equate a job loss to be just as stressful as the death of a close relative. I believe it. So until you find yourself in that position, you will NEVER understand what it's like. And until you find yourself in that situation, passing judgment (such as they're lazy or feel entitled) on those who are there is extremely short-sighted and insulting.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by Kevin

During the immigration debates we were all talking about those jobs Americans simply won't do.

Maybe some folks need to adjust their expectations/entitlement mentalities?

That really is a COS. that BS about there being some jobs Americans won't do. There are always Americans willing to do those jobs. The issue is that the people OFFERING those jobs want to hire someone they can pay a salary that is significantly lower than what someone can really live on in this country. Americans don't think they are too good for these jobs. These businesses are trying to cut costs and hire cheap laborers. Mickey D's is a prime example.

And it is ironic that you think some folks need to adjust their entitlement mentalities. You would do well to take your own advice. I have read your comments on here and to be honest, I felt a distinct sense of uneasiness. All jokes and snarkiness aside, you should watch the arrogance you display about having a job the rest of your life. That saying that pride goeth before a fall does not just come out of the blue. There is truth to it. You should be careful.

[deepimpact2]

This is just so unfortunate.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by rasputen

The illegals are coming here to do all the jobs that the bros would be doing if they were not so lazy.

Max, I agree with most of the things you post, but you have to look at the whole picture. You're just saying it's African Americans, but try taking a trip to Walmart. That's like the convention center for lazy, trailer park people. I mean, I give some credit to the drug dealers. At least they understand how business works, but the hillbilles are so freaking stupid they can't even operate a self check out station. And they smell, too. It's not just based on one race of people. It works both ways.

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Max, I agree with most of the things you post, but you have to look at the whole picture. You're just saying it's African Americans, but try taking a trip to Walmart. That's like the convention center for lazy, trailer park people. I mean, I give some credit to the drug dealers. At least they understand how business works, but the hillbilles are so freaking stupid they can't even operate a self check out station. And they smell, too. It's not just based on one race of people. It works both ways.

I was going to comment, but this thread is going in a whole 'nother direction.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Max, I agree with most of the things you post, but you have to look at the whole picture. You're just saying it's African Americans, but try taking a trip to Walmart. That's like the convention center for lazy, trailer park people. I mean, I give some credit to the drug dealers. At least they understand how business works, but the hillbilles are so freaking stupid they can't even operate a self check out station. And they smell, too. It's not just based on one race of people. It works both ways.

I like you more now.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by Kevin

We can't just keep treating the federal government as if they have unlimited funds. I agree that eventually the benefits have to dry up. The dole is a temporary measure, not a way of life. There are jobs out there and if that fails, there's entrepreneurship.

My friend tried to apply for a job at Target. They told her she was over-qualified. There's jobs out there, but for those who didn't go to college. If you have an education, the jobs that are actually hiring don't want you because they know you'll leave as soon as something better comes around.

And there isn't entrepreneurship. Small businesses are failing because people don't have money to spend anymore and taxes are going up. Mine and Dee's area is turning into a ghost-town. Cities that were once thriving are filled with empty buildings left over from businesses that were once thriving.

And please don't say "Move out" like you've done before. If everyone who couldn't find a job moved out of state, who is going to support the businesses that are left?

[Ggirl617]

I'm not going to pretend that I know everything about this issue, but I don't understand why people who aren't mentally or physically disabled can't be completely self sufficient and take total responsibility for themselves

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Ggirl617

I'm not going to pretend that I know everything about this issue, but I don't understand why people who aren't mentally or physically disabled can't be completely self sufficient and take total responsibility for themselves

Have you noticed the little recession we're in?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Have you noticed the little recession we're in?

They also might want to click the link above showing 4000 unemployed people who are able out looking for work.

if that's not being responsible, I don't know what is.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You don't know what tomorrow will bring. Because of your situation you may believe that you will have your job 'forever' but you never know what may happen that *POW* you could be unable to work.

Kevin not everyone's life is like yours, people on GC have told you that time and time again and I don't think you get that. It's not everyone has the ability to find a job 'just like that' and it's not for a lack of trying. Like others on here, I have friends with multiple degrees who can't find work regardless of the income spectrum they are looking.

I also agree with AGDee, libramunoz and MC have said. It's not as 'easy' or 'simplistic' as you say...hell if you want to be a help, give libramunoz a hand, make yourself useful, start a job bank or something so that way you can at least feel like you've helped someone who needs it. It kills me also the people that complain that unemployed people are lazy but aren't doing anything to help them.


Kevin it really amazes me how you come out looking when you enter into these kinds of debates...and you keep coming back.

Bravo. This is the first time in a long time that I've completely agreed with you!

Kevin, God forbid, nothing ever happens to you and your job. God forbid that you never lose your license for whatever reason. God forbid YOUR CLIENTS, who you live off of, never lose their jobs and therefore end up not being able to pay you. God forbid, the area you live in doesn't end up like the areas we live in where people can't afford lawyers anymore.

Godspeed asshole.