Soldier accused of Waterboarding his 4 year old Daughter

DaemonSeid · #1 02-09-2010, 10:40 AM

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U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alphabet'

A soldier waterboarded his four-year-old daughter because she was unable to recite her alphabet.

Joshua Tabor admitted to police he had used the CIA torture technique because he was so angry.

As his daughter 'squirmed' to get away, Tabor said he submerged her face three or four times until the water was lapping around her forehead and jawline.

Tabor, 27, who had won custody of his daughter only four weeks earlier, admitted choosing the punishment because the girl was terrified of water.
Human rights activists demonstrate waterboarding in front of the Justice Department. A soldier father stands accused of waterboarding his daughter because she couldn't recite the alphabet

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Police discovered the alleged waterboarding when they went to his home in the Tacoma suburb of Yelm and spoke to his girlfriend.

She told them about the alleged torture and the terrified girl was found hiding in a closet, with bruising on her back and scratch marks on her neck and throat.

Asked how she got the bruises, the girl is said to have replied: 'Daddy did it.'

During a police interview Tabor allegedly admitted grabbing his daughter, placing her on the kitchen counter and submerging her face into a bowl of water.

Sergeant Rob Carlson said the punishment was carried out because the girl would not recite the alphabet.

Police have not revealed Tabor's military service, but his base is home to units that have served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Tabor has been charged with assault and ordered to remain on his base and have no contact with his daughter or girlfriend, who has not been named. He is due to appear in court this week.

The girl has been taken into care. Her natural mother lives in Kansas but Tabor had been granted custody by a court.

ForeverRoses · #2 02-09-2010, 11:17 AM

that is very disturbing

ThetaDancer · #3 02-09-2010, 11:44 AM

That is horrifying.

dreamseeker · #4 02-09-2010, 12:26 PM

gtfo! wow. what's next, waterboarding when you can't recite the greek alphabet or your org's info?

Senusret I · #5 02-09-2010, 04:59 PM

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gtfo! wow. what's next, waterboarding when you can't recite the greek alphabet or your org's info?

knight_shadow · #6 02-09-2010, 05:05 PM

^^^ LOL @ Sen + dreamseeker

I'm thru with y'all...

dreamseeker · #7 02-10-2010, 01:29 AM

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^^^ LOL @ Sen + dreamseeker

I'm thru with y'all...

dekeguy · #8 02-10-2010, 01:37 PM

Let's see. Arrested while walking around wearing a kevlar helmet, carrying a stick, and threatening to break windows. Sounds like a real looney tunes type to me. Hopefully the Army shrinks will sort him out and kick him out of the Army before he gets back to his unit. Real soldiers do not abuse any kids, much less their own four year old daughters! Sad that this happened to the little girl. I hope that there are responsible family members who can care for her, considering that he recently gained custody. This suggests to me that neither parents are too tightly wrapped. But, since real soldiers tend to be serious about serving the nation and protecting our people and since these same soldiers tend to take seriously the role of protecting those who cannot protect themselves... Well, I'd hate to be in his shoes when his squad and platoon mates spend some 'quality time' with him.

thetygerlily · #9 02-09-2010, 05:08 PM

Way to scar the poor kid for life. The article mentioned that the dad used this "technique" because she was afraid of water. Yes, and I'm sure she a) loves water now and b) will recite the alphabet for you. Come on, seriously?

Not a great education or reinforcement method. And adds to Tacoma's bad name (although I did get married near there). Wow. Who in their right mind would use torture tactics on a CHILD?? Apparently, he was far from in his right mind. Kind of raises the issue of PTSD, if this is how far it can push some people.

agzg · #10 02-09-2010, 05:09 PM

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Kind of raises the issue of PTSD, if this is how far it can push some people.

I was wondering about that.

KSUViolet06 · #11 02-09-2010, 05:32 PM

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Apparently, he was far from in his right mind. Kind of raises the issue of PTSD, if this is how far it can push some people.

Agreed. I currently work in the mental health field with veterans, and I doubt that a mentally healthy/sound human being would attempt something of this nature. [This certainly doesn't excuse the behavior though].

cheerfulgreek · #12 02-09-2010, 05:29 PM

I wish he could get the same punishment that he gave that poor little girl. String him up, dunk him in a pool of water, let him sit under water for about 20 seconds, lift him back up, and repeat the cycle.

I just don't wanna see more tax payers money being wasted on another pos. I'm sure the lawyer$ are happy, though.

DrPhil · #13 02-09-2010, 06:31 PM

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I wish he could get the same punishment that he gave that poor little girl. String him up, dunk him in a pool of water, let him sit under water for about 20 seconds, lift him back up, and repeat the cycle.

Yes because we know that just deserts tends not to work in practice and perpetuates the faulty logic and violence that we claim to be deterring.

DrPhil · #14 02-09-2010, 06:22 PM

Awesome. Just...awesome.

One account of the history of the (B)GLO pledge process and hazing takes it back to the military and specifically what happened when these men returned from active duty. They applied their military techniques and interrogation tactics to GLOs, which is one explanation for the "line up" method of pledging.

Therefore, it should be no surprise that the same thing happens with families. We can't socialize people to various extents and teach them military tactics but then expect them (without extensive therapy--and I know some therapy is offered/provided) to transition out of it effectively and be able to separate military from nonmilitary. Then people expect people in the military to retain things like discipline and apply it to everyday life but not apply anything else they learned. Good job with that.

rhoyaltempest · #15 02-10-2010, 01:46 PM

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Awesome. Just...awesome.

One account of the history of the (B)GLO pledge process and hazing takes it back to the military and specifically what happened when these men returned from active duty. They applied their military techniques and interrogation tactics to GLOs, which is one explanation for the "line up" method of pledging.

Therefore, it should be no surprise that the same thing happens with families. We can't socialize people to various extents and teach them military tactics but then expect them (without extensive therapy--and I know some therapy is offered/provided) to transition out of it effectively and be able to separate military from nonmilitary. Then people expect people in the military to retain things like discipline and apply it to everyday life but not apply anything else they learned. Good job with that.

Yes, I read about this as well and think it's definitely true. Our "old" pledge process has the military written all over it when you think about it.