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11-20-2009, 08:31 PM
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Damn not another one. You'd think with Drake just getting the axe from the same exact thing, the other chapters would be toeing the line more. Apparently not.
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11-20-2009, 08:37 PM
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Very nice house....
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11-20-2009, 08:49 PM
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They just added onto it, this is their first semester in it as a renovated in a bit.. It use to be a shithole (as in week old puke on the floor). Up until last year, you could even smoke inside the house.
I didn't read the links or not, but when he was brought to the hospital he was at .68. They found him foaming at the mouth near his dorm. It was big brother night.
As the links may or may not have said, I don't believe they have permission to drink inside the house because of Phi Delt national rules. However, they were known as the biggest partiers of anyone on campus.
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11-20-2009, 09:07 PM
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I'll be interested to see if their charter gets pulled by nationals or by the University.
I doubt it, they have some fairly famous alumni (one of the Tysons). But it's possible. It's a pretty new house, relatively.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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11-20-2009, 11:09 PM
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From what I understand, Phi Delt Nationals doesn't screw around with their alcohol policy. I wouldn't be surprised to see the charter get yanked.
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11-20-2009, 11:34 PM
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From what I understand, Phi Delt Nationals doesn't screw around with their alcohol policy. I wouldn't be surprised to see the charter get yanked.
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People on the Arkansas campus find it hilarious when hearing that they're nationally dry. And yes, Phi Delt nationals don't screw around. I don't think that the UofA will pull their charter. Arkansas just doesn't really do that, no matter what all goes down. But their nationals might.
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11-21-2009, 12:41 AM
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My understanding of the policy is that its not a "dry" house per se, but that alcohol isn't allowed in the physical structure. They can still drink at events I believe, using a 3rd party vendor or BYOB (no collection for alcohol allowed).
What doesn't make sense to me about this and the Drake case is:
1. How the hell do you get that much alcohol into you? I thought pass-out range was like .4 for even the biggest people.
2. If they *really* want to drink, why not do what we used to do in high school? Go out in the woods, have a bonfire/campout and drink to your heart's content. Not that I'm condoning what happened in either case but seriously if you want to get trashed be smart about it.
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11-21-2009, 01:10 AM
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My understanding of the policy is that its not a "dry" house per se, but that alcohol isn't allowed in the physical structure. They can still drink at events I believe, using a 3rd party vendor or BYOB (no collection for alcohol allowed).
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You are correct. The chapter property (i.e. physical house) must be dry, but the chapter can host events that include alcohol as long as they are following policy.
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1. How the hell do you get that much alcohol into you? I thought pass-out range was like .4 for even the biggest people.
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You pass out around .40, but the majority of alcohol is absorbed in the small intestine, only a small amount is absorbed through the stomach itself. So, you could be fairly drunk, guzzle a fifth of whatever right before passing out, and your BAC will go up about 20-30 minutes later (time not exact) when that fifth hits your small intestine. Which is exactly why you cut people off well before they are staggering, puking, or passing out. You don't really know how much alcohol they have in their stomach waiting to hit that small intestine. That's how people are OK when they are put to bed, and dead the next morning.
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11-21-2009, 04:53 AM
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My understanding of the policy is that its not a "dry" house per se, but that alcohol isn't allowed in the physical structure. They can still drink at events I believe, using a 3rd party vendor or BYOB (no collection for alcohol allowed).
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While true, this was at their house. and always has been. they don't put their parties anywhere else.
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11-22-2009, 10:22 AM
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A BAC of .68 is incredibly. I work in Drug and Alcohol counseling and the highest I've heard of is .628. And that was by a 30 year old pretty serious alcoholic. I can't imagine how fast or how much this young man must have drank to get that high and how nobody noticed it.
I have seen on my campus that Phi Delta Theta Nationals do not mess around. Our chapter was shut down after two incidents which, compared to how much trouble other fraternities that are still around have gotten into. Was pretty shocking.
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12-02-2009, 11:26 PM
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And Phi Delt is gone.
Don't have a link, I'm sure there will be one forthcoming. Pulled by nationals, people think.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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12-03-2009, 12:04 AM
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And Phi Delt is gone.
Don't have a link, I'm sure there will be one forthcoming. Pulled by nationals, people think.
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Wow, were they are big chapter? I know at Ole Miss they are a big chapter and have a long history on campus.
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12-03-2009, 03:31 AM
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Wow, were they are big chapter? I know at Ole Miss they are a big chapter and have a long history on campus.
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They're no Ole Miss Phi Delt, but they were still prominent.
They had a few big time alumnis, but really were a pretty new fraternity, 1948 I think.
The thing was they had just remodeled their house. But they were 1. b in terms of tiers for example
1.a Kappa Sig
2.a. SAE
3.a. Sigma Chi
1.b Phi Delt.
So they were doing well.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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12-03-2009, 01:30 PM
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EW, do you think they will rent/lease out the house to another group? or will Sigma Nu buy it and turn it into a gameroom? 
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