Declared inactive (Feb 2009)

[naraht]

According to the changes in the Chapter List at the National Web Page, the following chapters are no longer active.

Pi Chi (V,65) - Duquesne University
Alpha Epsilon Rho (V,65) - West Liberty State College
Pi Beta (IX, 21) - University of Dubuque

I presume that this decision was made at the February Board meeting.

[Senusret I]

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I know, losing University of Dubuque shocked me as well.

Seriously, with Duquesne, there are only a couple of possibilities... One is that they haven't paid AAMDs for the last couple of years, which I really doubt. Another is Hazing, which my guess is that it would make the news. and the third and to me far most likely is that the chapter followed U of Maine and essentially dissolved themselves as Alpha Phi Omega and reformed themselves as Alpha Delta. In this case, the school would indicate that it no longer recognizes the APO chapter thus leading to it being declared N&V.

Randy

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by naraht

Seriously, with Duquesne, there are only a couple of possibilities... One is that they haven't paid AAMDs for the last couple of years, which I really doubt. Another is Hazing, which my guess is that it would make the news. and the third and to me far most likely is that the chapter followed U of Maine and essentially dissolved themselves as Alpha Phi Omega and reformed themselves as Alpha Delta. In this case, the school would indicate that it no longer recognizes the APO chapter thus leading to it being declared N&V.

Randy

Having spoken personally with several brothers from Duquesne, I can say with all but absolute certainty that they're crying two tears in a bucket over this inactive declaration.

Seriously, a bigger question would be would Alpha Phi Omega be able to come to Duquesne co-ed with Alpha Delta on campus (and remain after the initial petitioning group graduates)?

In any event, the original Pi Chi/Alpha Delta will be doing just fine.

[naraht]

Well, if they've indicated to the school they are no longer an APO chapter, then this would be expected by them.

Alpha Delta is in the Duquesne IFC, which basically means that once those who are brothers of APO have graduated, the school moves back to being a decent extension possibility. In fact in some ways having Alpha Delta there would be helpful in at least one way, if Gamma Sigma Sigma at Duquesne continues to consider Alpha Delta as their brother fraternity, they are less likely to affect an extension effort than the average GSS chapter.

As for Alpha Delta's situation at Duquesne, the school appears to have recently completed an effort to get rid of its locals either by having their affiliate with a National or by getting rid of them entirely. Yes, Alpha Delta is a national, but in terms of certain characteristics it is closer to some of the locals that they've gotten rid of than the Nationals that replaced them. Oddly enough I could see Alpha Delta at Duquesne getting some pressure to affiliate with an NIC fraternity (Just to pick one out of the air, Kappa Alpha Order doesn't have chapters at any of the three schools with Alpha Delta)

OTOH, I could see Alpha Delta being better able to handle the rules on who has to live in the dorms than the other Fraternities at Duquesne.

One other difference between Duquesne and Maine in terms of rechartering APO there at some time in the short term future. Section 94 (ME/NH/VT) is relatively poorly staffed with large distances between the chapters and although there are brothers at the new chapter at Husson College, ten miles away, section 94 probably has easier extension targets.

OTOH, Southwest PA (sections 65 & 66) have a fairly complete coverage of the Colleges and Universities in the area. In fact prior to the last couple of chapters going inactive, two year schools were actually serious targets (and I think still are). Duquesne is now by *far* the largest four year school (>10,000 total enrollment) in Southwest PA (and possibly Western PA) without a chapter. It also has at least 3 active chapters that can reach Duquesne by *a* city bus (no transfer!) (Pitt, Carnegie-Mellon and Carlow) and as best as I can tell by the amount of people on National/Regional Committees from the Pittsburgh area, experienced local staff as well. School's decision on having us return of course trumps all of this...


Yes, this has gone on longer than I intended...

YiLFS
Randy

[Quala67]

I find it sad that WLSC is inactive. They are a relatively NEW chapter - and already declared inactive? Apparrently they couldn't maintain after the initial set of charter brothers graduated.

*sigh*

[AndrewPiChi]

Originally Posted by naraht

Alpha Delta is in the Duquesne IFC, which basically means that once those who are brothers of APO have graduated, the school moves back to being a decent extension possibility. In fact in some ways having Alpha Delta there would be helpful in at least one way, if Gamma Sigma Sigma at Duquesne continues to consider Alpha Delta as their brother fraternity, they are less likely to affect an extension effort than the average GSS chapter.

As for Alpha Delta's situation at Duquesne, the school appears to have recently completed an effort to get rid of its locals either by having their affiliate with a National or by getting rid of them entirely. Yes, Alpha Delta is a national, but in terms of certain characteristics it is closer to some of the locals that they've gotten rid of than the Nationals that replaced them. Oddly enough I could see Alpha Delta at Duquesne getting some pressure to affiliate with an NIC fraternity (Just to pick one out of the air, Kappa Alpha Order doesn't have chapters at any of the three schools with Alpha Delta)

While there is nothing I can really do or say (nor would I ever interfer with an Alpha Phi Omega extension effort) to stop Alpha Phi Omega rechartering at Duquesne, wouldn't the 'new breed' of Alpha Phi Omega when they come back be slightly curious as to where 44 years of Alumni are....

And yes, Alpha Delta is National. It isn't local, has no plans to be local and unless the dice roll against us it won't be.

[ques26]

I attend the NO and Kentucky. I received reports from brothers, who went to the Boston convention. I will be in Atlanta this summer cookout and the next conference in Atlanta. I had a conversation with a prominent brother from Howard. He had just sent the chapter at howard a email to produce a tribute for Big Brother L. Young. He had a conversation with the Prime Minister of Bermuda, A Brother and Howard alumni Brother. They will get it Done. Our alumni Association will be sending his widow a Gift. That how we do it. He help increase the frat minority chapters under his leadership with respect. I have talked to the chapters that have disbanded. There points are valid. We move on with our brotherhood. In marketing, we call what national doing is a disconnect.

[APhiQuetieACE]

Originally Posted by ques26

I attend the NO and Kentucky. I received reports from brothers, who went to the Boston convention. I will be in Atlanta this summer cookout and the next conference in Atlanta. I had a conversation with a prominent brother from Howard. He had just sent the chapter at howard a email to produce a tribute for Big Brother L. Young. He had a conversation with the Prime Minister of Bermuda, A Brother and Howard alumni Brother. They will get it Done. Our alumni Association will be sending his widow a Gift. That how we do it. He help increase the frat minority chapters under his leadership with respect. I have talked to the chapters that have disbanded. There points are valid. We move on with our brotherhood. In marketing, we call what national doing is a disconnect.

I have a few questions, but I'll start with a HELLO...

1) Who is this "prominent" Brother you speak of at Howard? (Zeta Phi is my chapter, which is why I'm curious) Did this brother say he/she went to Boston?

2) I receive ALL emails for the chapter and we did not receive an email about doing a tribute for Big Brother LTC (Ret.) Lucius E. Young. What are you speaking of? There was a posting on Facebook, but this was after we had already done the Memorial Ritual.

3) When you say cookout in Atlanta do you mean 25/52? I heard it was canceled this year, but I'm not sure.

Uhmmmm...that's all...thanks!

[gamma_girl52]

The Cookout this year is not canceled.
It's July 23-26, 2009 in Atlanta.

Sorry I don't have anything meaningful to add to the conversation, LOL

[APhiQuetieACE]

Originally Posted by gamma_girl52

The Cookout this year is not canceled.
It's July 23-26, 2009 in Atlanta.

Sorry I don't have anything meaningful to add to the conversation, LOL

oh okay...THANKS!!

[naraht]

[QUOTE=ques26;1788165]...with the Prime Minister of Bermuda, A Brother and Howard alumni Brother. [QUOTE]

Membership of Ewart Frederick Brown, current Premier* of Bermuda, has been confirmed with the APO National Office. He was initiated by Zeta Phi chapter at Howard in April 1965.

To answer the question that might spring to mind, Bermuda only has post-secondary institution, and that is a two year college called Bermuda College which has no greek letter organizations.

*Note, while Bermuda has a parlimentary system, and many countries with similar systems call their head of government Prime Minister, Bermuda calls its leader Premier. See http://www.elections.gov.bm/evolution-franchise.html for more information.

[RedRover]

I was a student at Duquesne in the late 1970s and even back then, the A-Phi-O acted like a social fraternity. In many ways, Pi Chi was extention of Duquesne ROTC.

I know of at least two men who didn't receive bids to join Pi Chi, even though both became student leaders on campus.

I sincerely hope that in a couple of years, the national A-Phi-O would considering re-establishing the Duquesne chapter. Pi Chi was very active service-wise when I was on campus

[AndrewPiChi]

hey we're still around. Ain't a damn thing changed, we are still about the same things and we still do way to much community service. we just got new t-shirts

[ques26]

Frank Reed Horton wanted a STANDARD of MANHOOD.. I am remaking a youth program on that Stardard.