Murder at Va. Tech

DaemonSeid · #1 01-22-2009, 07:18 AM

Va. Tech stabbing suspect charged with murder
2 hours ago

BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) — A graduate student from China has been charged with murder in the fatal stabbing of a female student on Virginia Tech's campus, the first killing there since a deadly mass shooting in 2007.

An electronic alert system revamped after the massacre warned students to stay in place while police investigated the incident around 7:45 p.m. Wednesday — about half an hour after the suspect was taken into custody. They were cleared to resume normal activity about an hour later.

The woman, who was also a graduate student but was not identified, was stabbed to death at a cafe in the Graduate Life Center. Police believe she knew the man accused of attacking her, 25-year-old Haiyang Zhu, the school said in a news release. He was charged with first-degree murder and was being held without bond.

It was unclear early Thursday morning where he was being held or whether he had an attorney.

Campus police were called to the scene around 7:06 p.m., and Zhu was taken into custody minutes later, the school said. Responding officers found him and a knife they believe was used at the scene.

Students who live in the building were allowed to come and go, but others were asked to stay away from the area. The hall would re-open later Thursday morning, the school said.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/ne...ewthread&f=207

DGTess · #2 01-22-2009, 10:31 AM

Oh, my gawd. Another murder at VT. Let's close the "gun show loophole" so it doesn't happen again.

</sarcasm>

ZTABullwinkle · #3 01-23-2009, 01:45 AM

Ummm, he didn't just stab her...he decapitated her with an 8-inch kitchen knife!

Here is the link from our local paper: VT grad student knew her killer

AKA_Monet · #4 01-23-2009, 02:38 AM

I am in a foul mood so I'mma ask it:

What the HAYLO is up with VT's admissions policies accepting students who kill each other? Who are they accepting these days? Freddie, Jason, Michael? DAYUM!

KSigkid · #5 01-24-2009, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I am in a foul mood so I'mma ask it:

What the HAYLO is up with VT's admissions policies accepting students who kill each other? Who are they accepting these days? Freddie, Jason, Michael? DAYUM!

I would bet that this happens on a lot more campuses than VT.

AKA_Monet · #6 01-24-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

I would bet that this happens on a lot more campuses than VT.

You are right... But IDK? Cho, then Zhu? Coincidence? Maybe... Maybe not...

Some of the folks with H-1B visas have been found to have fraudulent credentials and are treated like slaves... And since they pay something way beyond "out of state" tuition and fees, many universities that greedily and willingly accept people with H-1B visas are making a killing off them, and scaring them into cheap labor.

Check out Lou Dobbs, CNN and Science Magazine about this issue, those are my sources...

nittanyalum · #7 01-23-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DGTess

Oh, my gawd. Another murder at VT. Let's close the "gun show loophole" so it doesn't happen again.

</sarcasm>

You're an ass.

CutiePie2000 · #8 01-24-2009, 02:37 AM

This story reminded me of that horrific murder and decapitation, back in July 2008. It happened on a Greyhound Bus in Manitoba, Canada :
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...meline-li.html
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=L5lGvjXXblA

Elephant Walk · #9 01-23-2009, 03:18 AM

goddamn farr-eners

AKA_Monet · #10 01-23-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

goddamn farr-eners

That ain't right...

And it's s'pose to be spelled "gottdayum"!!! LOL...

RU OX Alum · #11 01-24-2009, 10:31 AM

True

PM_Mama00 · #12 01-24-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

I would bet that this happens on a lot more campuses than VT.

It does, it just is kept from the public. I was surprised to hear that there were reported rapes on my campus which is very small and commuter.

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

...And back to your earlier concern, just think of what type of discriminatory practices would arise if college campuses were ever allowed to perform any type of mental evaluation of incoming students to any program.

The SATs descended from a mental test...which was concidered to be anti race and anti immigrant. No sense in giving schools more tools to illegally weed out people they don't want.

If it were legal to discriminate based on a mental evaluation, my campus would have been half what it was. Seriously so many weird and crazy people. Then again doesn't mean that they have a mental problem, more like a creepy factor.

DaemonSeid · #13 01-24-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

It does, it just is kept from the public. I was surprised to hear that there were reported rapes on my campus which is very small and commuter.

If it were legal to discriminate based on a mental evaluation, my campus would have been half what it was. Seriously so many weird and crazy people. Then again doesn't mean that they have a mental problem, more like a creepy factor.

Careful because at this point, you then may have to quantify what is considered 'weird and crazy'.

Some of the most heinous crimes ever committed were done by people by all counts appeared to be sane.

PM_Mama00 · #14 01-24-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Careful because at this point, you then may have to quantify what is considered 'weird and crazy'.

Some of the most heinous crimes ever committed were done by people by all counts appeared to be sane.

You're totally right because a lot of people who do have mental illnesses don't show it and you'd never know. The few people I know never really show it until they get really stressed out. What I meant is that there were people who you would think, by their actions, may have something.

On a serious note, as far as doing evaluations, I've found that there are more people out there who are bi-polar and clinically depressed than you'd think. If we're talking about schizophrenia it's one thing. Some people have severe cases and some people don't show it at all. But I'm not sure if bi-polar or being clinically depressed would have much of an effect on their work. I guess it all depends on the severity of it.

In Cho's case, he did show signs of mental illness. Did this guy? Another thing I wonder is how China deals with mental illness.

DaemonSeid · #15 01-24-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

You're totally right because a lot of people who do have mental illnesses don't show it and you'd never know. The few people I know never really show it until they get really stressed out. What I meant is that there were people who you would think, by their actions, may have something.

On a serious note, as far as doing evaluations, I've found that there are more people out there who are bi-polar and clinically depressed than you'd think. If we're talking about schizophrenia it's one thing. Some people have severe cases and some people don't show it at all. But I'm not sure if bi-polar or being clinically depressed would have much of an effect on their work. I guess it all depends on the severity of it.

In Cho's case, he did show signs of mental illness. Did this guy? Another thing I wonder is how China deals with mental illness.

That's because the ones that are sometimes the most stressed are the same ones struggling to put on a 'happy face'.

Ever notice some of the same crimes that are considered 'senseless' when you look further on the inside, the perpetrator is seen as normal.

Went about a normal life

Was nice to people but because they thought that they were 'normal' that they didn't need to see anyone (and the average 'normal' person is likely to shrug off help), we fail to see the sign manifesting that this person is set to go off.

ON THE OTHER HAND...it's a build up of everyday things but you wouldn't think it would drive a person to murder...

Check this article out, and while you are reading it, we all may think, "Well that's not enough to go out and kill somebody for."

Excerpt:

The university said in a news conference Thursday that Zhu had not been under review by its ‘Threat Assessment’ or ‘CARE’ teams.
It also said Zhu had not come before the workings of the Virginia Tech or Blacksburg police departments.
Fellow graduate student and teaching assistant, Ken Stanton, paints a different picture of Zho.

“It’s hard to believe he would be involved in something like this, he says.“

http://www.wsls.com/sls/news/local/n...new_him/25757/

Some people are just constantly in a foul mood and even then it may not be enough signs to say "Oh he is going to kill someone", just "Stay out of his way" and what do we do once they manifest? Ignore them.

This particular article states that the suspect was contantly belligerent and left signs something was about to happen that no one followed up on, and yes, in the link below I believe your question was answered about this fellow's mental state:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,482524,00.html

Forget about China and how they deal with mental illness, fact is, across all strata, we, in general are in denial sometimes about our own mental well being (genrally speaking, people, not quoting facts) we sometimes in daily situations try hard to handle our own problems without seeking professional help because we are too far from hitting rock bottom to declare that we are weak and not strong enough to solve our own problems. It's part of why we turn to certain addictions and not just drugs and alcohol, but why some of us do strange things to find an outlet and think that it's 'normal'.

I'll stop here....peep the articles and you all leave your opinions.