Do all GLO's require no SummerII session attendance?

[Conch]

Hello, As you can see, I'm a new poster, but I have a question for each of you collegiates (or alums): Does your GLO require that you NOT attend the last session of summer school because "it interferes with recruitment"? Is this normal overall, is this normal for particular groups, is this normal at certain schools, or is this confined to one particular group at one particular campus?

I hope my outrage is obvious, or at least my confusion. As a parent, I thought my child was in college to gain an education, and that GLO's put scholarship at the pinnacle of each member's achievments. Please help me understand this, or if this is peculiar to my child's GLO, let me know how/if it can be countered.

It was an alumni advisor who sent this message last week. No summer jobs or internships either, or fines will be assessed for each missed recruitment workshop roll call. Thanks to all of you!

[lauralaylin]

At my school the second summer session ended over a month before practice began, so it wasn't an issue. But we have a policy that allows excused absences for class.

[ForeverRoses]

Wow. Summer jobs and internships were encouraged when I was in school. I couldn't have paid for my sorority without summer jobs! As for summer school, that was never an issue either. but then again our rush happened during fall quarter, not in the summer.

[Conch]

Yes, this is also fall rush, but they start workshops in the summer to get ready.

[ComradesTrue]

We started workshops in mid August, but this was after Summer School had ended. Thus, no conflict there.

As for jobs/internships... yes, we were required to be at all Rush functions, including the workshops. So, one could have a summer job or internship, but it was understood that we were expected to be back on campus for the first day of Rush workshop.

There may have been a handful of exceptions for specific career related internships, but these were cleared far in advance. In other words, we knew in Sept the Rush schedule for the next Aug. If a member were to pursue an internship that had a schedule conflict, she knew that she would have to get the excused absence before applying. Most internships did not go too far into August, so this was rarely an issue.

There were no exceptions for jobs. None. And honestly I never blamed our Rush team for that edict. If you were to apply for a summer job, you just told your employer when your last day would have to be.

[Conch]

Thanks to you all for your responses! Thank you, Blondie93, for being the Voice of Reason. It's good to know that there are more than one GLO with these policies....I truly had my doubts! But I guess that's just the Mommy in me.

[Zillini]

Our excused policy is on a case-by-case basis. There are very few excuses allowed during Recruitment itself, but we're a bit more flexible with workshop week.

Summer term usually ends during our practice week before Recruitment starts. If this is a required class for your major, and/or a pre-req to another required course, and/or the course isn't offered every semester, then a member may be excused from workshop. She must show proof of these things. Something like Basket Weaving 101 isn't excused.

Internships are often set in stone with little to no flexibility on how long they last. We have to respect that. The same with studying abroad.

Jobs are a little more tricky, especially in this ever worsening economy with more and more students attending school on loans, scholarships, grants, and paying their own way. If it's a this summer only job, we expect members to be present during workshop. If the member is working at the job year round and especially if it is helping her to pay for membership, we don't want to jeopordize that. We ask that they provide a letter from their employer saying they have requested the time off and it is impossible to give. (Granted we assume an employer is honorable and honest.) But in these cases the job is presumably in town since it should continue during the school year and we expect them to attend workshop during their off hours.

Something else though, those members who are excused or unexcused are expected to contribute to the chapter in some other way to make up for their being absent when everyone else was working. Things such as helping to write Rec thank yous or some such.

[KSUViolet06]

My school doesn't have recruitment until September, so we didn't even start workshops until the beginning of August. By that time, the last summer session here is over and people are done with internships.

As far as work schedules, we got the recruitment workshop dates & actual recruitment dates in May, which gave girls about 4 months to request those days off. So work wasn't considered an excuse because we were given ample time to plan our schedules around sorority stuff.

[violetpretty]

This is almost certainly a policy dictated by the chapter, not by the (Inter)National sorority.

My chapter has pre-recruitment for FMR at the tail-end of the winter session and pre-recruitment at the tail end of summer II for informal. In both cases, members are excused from pre-recruitment when they are in class, but they must be present if they are not in class.

My chapter also asked members to not sign up for class on Monday nights if they could avoid it, because we have chapter meetings every Monday night. But if members have class on Monday nights, it is still excused.

[LΩVE]

Possibly that's like asking members to try to avoid taking a class on chapter nights. But sometimes that's unavoidable...she might need more hours or a specific class that is taught only at that time. If that were the case and it were presented to the chapter ahead of time and they still wanted to punish the member then I consider them to be completely against what NPC stands for. I can't imagine a chapter getting away with that though. Class should always be excused. It's reasonable to ask someone to take the class at another time if possible, but sometimes there is a conflict and EDUCATION should ALWAYS take precedence.

For us, jobs were not an excuse. You know months earlier what your workshop schedule will be and you either end your summer job at that time or ask off if it's a year round job. Surely they aren't asking members not to have a job AT ALL in the summer!

[Buttonz]

No Greek at my undergrad took any class on Wenesday night unless they couldn't avoid it (only time it was being given) because all of us had our meetings that night. If we couldn't avoid it then we were excused.

Originally Posted by Conch

Hello, As you can see, I'm a new poster, but I have a question for each of you collegiates (or alums): Does your GLO require that you NOT attend the last session of summer school because "it interferes with recruitment"? Is this normal overall, is this normal for particular groups, is this normal at certain schools, or is this confined to one particular group at one particular campus?

I hope my outrage is obvious, or at least my confusion. As a parent, I thought my child was in college to gain an education, and that GLO's put scholarship at the pinnacle of each member's achievments. Please help me understand this, or if this is peculiar to my child's GLO, let me know how/if it can be countered.

It was an alumni advisor who sent this message last week. No summer jobs or internships either, or fines will be assessed for each missed recruitment workshop roll call. Thanks to all of you!

My GLO has no such official policy that prohibits members from attending Summer II classes.

Our recruitment doesn't start until early September, and Recruitment Training School is usually held the day before Fall Semester begins, so it was never really an issue. We have a small chapter so we didn't need more than a day for RTS.

Our late summer/fall calendar is in place by the last Executive Council meeting in the Spring (April) and then it gets presented to the chapter. The girls know well in advance when to take off work for RTS, recruitment, and other mandatory events.

I'm curious to hear from the gals who start recruitment in mid-August -- 'Bama, Auburn, etc.