Oscars.... "Sorority racist"

[thetalady]

Chris Rock says that Hollywood is "sorority racist." We really like you, but you're just not a Kappa.

[ChioLu]

Chris Rock -- he's participating in "tent talk"!

[tinydancer]

I thought that was funny!

[Nanners52674]

I may or may not have snorted when he said that.

[Sen's Revenge]

I am so glad y'all didn't have a cow. I literally was like OH GOD GREEKCHAT WILL BE AFLAME. LOL

[AZTheta]

Most of us have a sense of humor. *Most* being the key word.

[thetalady]

Well, of course not everybody saw the humor....

Sorority Racist

[AnchorAlumna]

Way to pick out tweets to suit your agenda.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Historically white sororities and fraternities are institutionally racist by their very nature. That doesn't mean that individual chapters and members aren't doing good things, but if your organization favors legacies or women with recs, you are automatically expressing a preference for white membership.

[rockwallgreek]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Historically white sororities and fraternities are institutionally racist by their very nature. That doesn't mean that individual chapters and members aren't doing good things, but if your organization favors legacies or women with recs, you are automatically expressing a preference for white membership.

I have a problem with this comment. It will be 16 years in the future, but my two year old fully Hispanic, adopted granddaughter will have multiple recs if needed. She is my granddaughter and she is beautiful. She also has three aunts and her mother to write recs. Another daughter who is "approved and waiting" in the adoption process may have a daughter who is green with purple polka dots. She will also be showered with recs. The only thing I automatically do is love my grandchildren.

[amillionlights]

Originally Posted by rockwallgreek

I have a problem with this comment. It will be 16 years in the future, but my two year old fully Hispanic, adopted granddaughter will have multiple recs if needed. She is my granddaughter and she is beautiful. She also has three aunts and her mother to write recs. Another daughter who is "approved and waiting" in the adoption process may have a daughter who is green with purple polka dots. She will also be showered with recs. The only thing I automatically do is love my grandchildren.

That's not what DeltaBetaBaby is saying. It's truly great that your grandchildren in your situation will have recs/legacy status - it's wonderful for them! But historically, people of color have not had the same opportunities to become members of historically white GLOs as white people. Therefore, as a whole, they have fewer opportunities to be legacies/find recs. It's an institutional issue, not an individual one.

[jolene]

Originally Posted by rockwallgreek

I have a problem with this comment. It will be 16 years in the future, but my two year old fully Hispanic, adopted granddaughter will have multiple recs if needed. She is my granddaughter and she is beautiful. She also has three aunts and her mother to write recs. Another daughter who is "approved and waiting" in the adoption process may have a daughter who is green with purple polka dots. She will also be showered with recs. The only thing I automatically do is love my grandchildren.

A chapter sister of mine & her hubby adopted a child from Guatemala. She'll be legacy and have a zillion recs if she goes to a school with Alpha Xi Delta. If she goes to a school that doesn't have AXiD, I'll give her info to get recs from other Panhellenic friends.

[Munchkin03]

I'm really glad y'all didn't get the vapours from what Chris Rock said. I thought it was HILARIOUS. One of my friends texted me to see if I was offended. I didn't even respond because I didn't want to be her black perspective on that joke.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Historically white sororities and fraternities are institutionally racist by their very nature. That doesn't mean that individual chapters and members aren't doing good things, but if your organization favors legacies or women with recs, you are automatically expressing a preference for white membership.

I would actually think it was more classist than racist--I know that I had no problem getting the recs I needed, and my niece certainly didn't (even at an SEC school, y'all!). That's less an individual exception than reflective of the increasing social capital of families of color.

While institutional racism is sometimes inextricably linked with classism, it's rather unfair to intimate that black/Latino automatically means "unable to get recs," because it's just as likely that a working-class white student would face the same difficulties. The institution is just as classist as it is racist.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I'm really glad y'all didn't get the vapours from what Chris Rock said. I thought it was HILARIOUS. One of my friends texted me to see if I was offended. I didn't even respond because I didn't want to be her black perspective on that joke.



I would actually think it was more classist than racist--I know that I had no problem getting the recs I needed, and my niece certainly didn't (even at an SEC school, y'all!). That's less an individual exception than reflective of the increasing social capital of families of color.

While institutional racism is sometimes inextricably linked with classism, it's rather unfair to intimate that black/Latino automatically means "unable to get recs," because it's just as likely that a working-class white student would face the same difficulties. The institution is just as classist as it is racist.

I've always viewed that (Legacies/Recs) as being classist as well. I'm glad fraternities don't put much emphasis on them as the sororities do, because as the first in my family to go to college and not knowing a single Greek, I probably would have never received a bid.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by NWguy

1) Doesn't this vary by region? In California and Pacific Northwest, there is a significant percentage of Asian students joining fraternities and sororities. In Florida, where my brother went to college, there were quite a few Hispanic men in fraternities.

And I believe there's a slight increase of East Indian students also going through recruitment each year, at least from some of the recruitment videos posted online from my fraternity.

2) I know that some African-American students choose to join multi-cultural fraternities; so they haven't been discriminated against, they simply just chose to join those fraternities instead.

People say that fraternities and sororities have been, and continue to be, racist. But maybe it's really because the number of minority students going through recruitment is low to begin with.

1) It can. I used DC as an example because it's what I know and because the racial and class dynamics support my argument more. LOL

2) Are you talking about multicultural fraternities or are you talking about predominately black fraternities? Those are two different things. At any rate, we're not really talking about students who make the conscious decision to join those types of organizations, are we? And while black fraternities would have existed regardless, what we're really talking about here is the structure of white fraternities and sororities.

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I'm really glad y'all didn't get the vapours from what Chris Rock said. I thought it was HILARIOUS. One of my friends texted me to see if I was offended. I didn't even respond because I didn't want to be her black perspective on that joke.



I would actually think it was more classist than racist--I know that I had no problem getting the recs I needed, and my niece certainly didn't (even at an SEC school, y'all!). That's less an individual exception than reflective of the increasing social capital of families of color.

While institutional racism is sometimes inextricably linked with classism, it's rather unfair to intimate that black/Latino automatically means "unable to get recs," because it's just as likely that a working-class white student would face the same difficulties. The institution is just as classist as it is racist.

But in the case of a white student from a working class family, they would have still had college-educated teachers at the very least, right? To me, that's more what white privilege is-- that a white child/girl/teen could still have access to certain institutions in spite of their economic standing, rather than people of color gaining access through their economic standing.

I suppose there are always exceptions, like the white family in the predominately black school district.