Theta Kappa Nu

Corbin Dallas · #1 07-26-2000, 12:43 AM

Does anyone know much history behind Theta Kappa Nu? I was wondering what the original 11 chapters were, and also, what TKN chapters, or men from those chapters, were instrumental in joining with LCA.

I was wondering because my chapter designation is Theta Kappa, and I think that would hold great significance, and also our chapter went from PIES to TKN around 1925, and TKN was formed in 1924 sometime. I think in a history of my school, it says one of the TKN's there was instrumental in joining with LCA. Thanks!

In ZAX
Steve Corbin
TK 1507

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Steve Corbin
Lambda Chi Alpha
Theta Kappa Chapter
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.

LXAAlum · #2 08-01-2000, 11:57 AM

There is good information in older editions of the Paedagogus regarding this, also, see if you chapter has Cross and Crescents from 1939...there is a lot of information there, too.

Corbin Dallas · #3 08-02-2000, 11:16 AM

Thanks for the info. I'll have to look through our formal and see what we have. I know we have several old Paedagogus's (Paedagogi?), and other such things.

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Steve Corbin
Lambda Chi Alpha
Theta Kappa Chapter
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.

LXA1048 · #4 04-23-2001, 03:48 PM

What about Theta Kappa Nu's ritual, is it completly different. I would love to get my hands on a copy of it. I love ritual stuff anyway. Does anybody have a copy of LXA ritual before it was revised by internationals? I would love to see how they handled it in the old days.

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Tom Earp · #5 04-24-2001, 04:10 PM

International should have a copy of the ritual for TKN. I met one time an original TKN. Doc Feist, Of which I am sure is long departed!! If you remember THN and LXA coat of arms were combined to make the present LXA coat of arms. Good luck in you search!!!

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Tom Earp LX Z#1
Pittsburg State U. (Kansas)

SkipRock · #6 04-27-2001, 02:49 AM

You might want to check the Open Rituals of Lambda Chi Alpha. I thought I read something about Theta Kappa Nu and the Association Ceremony being similar. But it has been a while since I have looked through a book. Also consult the High Phi manual for changes to the LCA ritual.

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David Treat
Lambda Chi Alpha
University of Nebraska at Omaha

LXA1048 · #7 04-27-2001, 11:54 AM

Thanks for the help.

Mooch279 · #8 05-03-2001, 02:04 AM

yes, our AM ceremony is a condenced version of theta kappa nu's initiation. there original ritual is at natonals head quaters, and i've see a book floating around (i can't think of the name of it right now) that is kind of a helper book to the phi manual. also the four triangles on the AM pin was the old TKN brother badge i believe. i hope this can help.

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Billy DeMarco
University of Maryland, BC
Phi Delta 279

Hitman283 · #9 05-04-2001, 01:34 AM

"The Ritual, What and Why" is available from headquarters. It explains a lot of the history behind our ritual and includes a lot of information about Theta Kappa Nu as well. The things that I've found interesting pertain to the evolution of our ritual. Some of that is explained in the RW&W but for the full blown explaination, you'll have to consult the Phi Manual. The Fraternity also publishes a book about our history. It has a lot of information, not just stuff about ritual. It's not the most exciting read in the world, but if you're curious about anything Lambda Chi, I'm sure you'll find it there.

In ZAX,

Rithy Chhay
Phi-Delta 283
Maryland-Baltimore

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GI1214 · #10 10-25-2001, 06:23 PM

Another good resource to contact might be the fraternity historian. Dr. Charles Peyser of the University of the South is very knowledgeable. At least, he should be able to help you define your search when you go to HQ.

Tom Earp · #11 10-30-2001, 12:54 AM

wHY ARENT SOME YOU GUYS ON THE GENERAL SITE????
There are 2 Alums as Moderators on Alum Site Thread

Check it out!!!!

Send me an E-M and let me KNOW where you are and some info!!!!

Tom Earp · #12 10-30-2001, 12:56 AM

Just remembered in the last C & C beginning TKN and LXA History!!!!

Da me

lifesaver · #13 10-30-2001, 05:13 PM

Sorry it took me so long to see this thread. I know a couple of things, most of my info came from the fraternitie's history book (I think it is around $30.00) whih you can get from Indy. Also some info came from Chuck Pyser, the fraternity historian.

Th original ritual consisted of the oaths basically used today while the candidates wore college graduation gowns. Took about 15 minutes.

Youre right TKN's ritual was basically the form we us for the AM ceremony, with changes made for officer placement and officer titles.

I know what TKN stood for (letters, if you want to em me I'll share them w/you, but wont post them here outta respect for TKN).

The white rose thing, was completely made up. TKN's rose was a red rose, not white, but when put on our coat of arms, looked like a drop of ketchup, so the decided to change it to white. Pretty uncerimoniously too. TKN's Colors were black, silver and red.

Theres some interesting history about how TKN chapters were absorbed into LXA. Aslso the thing with Zeta designations are pretty cool too.

IN ZAX,
lifesaver

JoinerLxa · #14 09-17-2002, 11:50 AM

I have copies of TKN's rituals....their ritual was NOT a fifteen
minute affair...it was much longer.

However, most of it is very repetitive and boring, until the
end, where a sort of "play" is carried out.

The LXA Assoc. Ceremony is a condensation (MAJOR
condensation) of the ritual, though none of the "play"
(which is the most interesting part) is included.

Their ritual was rewritten about 1938, so that it could be
done by 3 initiated members (so many chapters didn't
have enough active members to even do the original!)

For many years, nationals frowned upon circulating the
ritual...probably for fear chapters would start using it,
perhaps as a pre-initiation event. But now I think they
don't care much whether or not members read it.
I believe, officially, it is no longer secret...though oddly
enough, it is more secret than LXA's just because so
few people have read it!

Hope this is informative

Kappa-Omega 958

lifesaver · #15 09-17-2002, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoinerLxa
I have copies of TKN's rituals....their ritual was NOT a fifteen
minute affair...it was much longer.

However, most of it is very repetitive and boring, until the
end, where a sort of "play" is carried out.

The LXA Assoc. Ceremony is a condensation (MAJOR
condensation) of the ritual, though none of the "play"
(which is the most interesting part) is included.

Their ritual was rewritten about 1938, so that it could be
done by 3 initiated members (so many chapters didn't
have enough active members to even do the original!)

For many years, nationals frowned upon circulating the
ritual...probably for fear chapters would start using it,
perhaps as a pre-initiation event. But now I think they
don't care much whether or not members read it.
I believe, officially, it is no longer secret...though oddly
enough, it is more secret than LXA's just because so
few people have read it!

Hope this is informative

Kappa-Omega 958

Sorry, I should have clarified. The fifteen minute reference was to LXA's first ritual. The one cole wrote.

I am very interested to see soem TKN ritualistic stuff. Would you be willign to share withthe proper authentications? Id lkike to incorporate it into our zetas ZAX sessions (closed of course, out of respect), I dotn think TKN gets enough mention, and they are a big part of our history. Please advise...