Declining enrollment at CSU campuses

[PKT4LIFE]

Definitely will have implications with Greek life recruitment.

https://www.ktvu.com/news/college-st...ity-system.amp

[Zach]

A lot of people don’t want the accumulated debt. Back in the day, most college degrees would get graduates a livable income. That’s not the way things are now. You get college debt your income can’t or struggles to pay back.

[navane]

Originally Posted by Zach

A lot of people don’t want the accumulated debt. Back in the day, most college degrees would get graduates a livable income. That’s not the way things are now. You get college debt your income can’t or struggles to pay back.

This is especially true in California. Universities have become expensive due to competing to be bigger, better and flashier than the next. Fancy fitness centers, gourmet dining halls, premium facilities. That cost is passed on to the students. Plus, the costs of education went up when the universities realized that the students would just get bigger and bigger government loans.

Also, in recent years, California has been pushing for community college attendance. The state even moved to have community colleges start offering 4-year bachelor's degrees. So, the state kinda shot itself in the foot with that. Now students realize they can stay home, for less tuition, and get a degree without going to the expensive universities.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by navane

...
Also, in recent years, California has been pushing for community college attendance. The state even moved to have community colleges start offering 4-year bachelor's degrees. So, the state kinda shot itself in the foot with that. Now students realize they can stay home, for less tuition, and get a degree without going to the expensive universities.

This. The school where I work/attend is experiencing problems related to this ( and other things).

[33girl]

Being a roofer, welder or plumber is most definitely not "working in bad conditions." There's nothing wrong with getting your hands dirty and these are some of the FEW jobs that are recession and AI proof.

[amIblue?]

I agree with you about there being nothing wrong with getting your hands dirty, but being a roofer is dangerous (working from heights and usually in terrible heat, at least here in the south). But for any skilled trade, people can make bank, and we need those people. Trade work can’t be outsourced overseas or done remotely. I would never discourage any young person with an interest in a trade from pursuing it. My nephew is a genius, and he has been doing carpentry work while he has been in high school. He is seriously considering pursuing carpentry instead of going to college. We’ve all been kind of shocked because of how well he does academically, but if it’s going to make him happy and not saddle him with student loan debt…go for it.

[Iota_JWH]

For Sonoma State U, the Collegiate Panhellenic total was 129 in Fall 2018. The total from Fall 2023 is 46. Most chapters have a large portion of upperclassmen, as there are many transfer students at the school. I also have noticed the last couple years that the NPC groups are definitely "whiter" than in the past. I guess that the non-white women don't want to join the NPC chapters. (There are two local sororities, and I have no clue as to their size nor their populations.)

yep, the outlook is not good.

[calroses]

Originally Posted by Iota_JWH

For Sonoma State U, the Collegiate Panhellenic total was 129 in Fall 2018. The total from Fall 2023 is 46.

This just in: campus total at SSU is only 39 this year. When AOII colonized in 2012 (I was the Network Specialist for the colony at the time), we initiated 80 collegians and one alumna. I want to say campus total was above 100 at the time.

I've been out of the loop for years so I was very shocked to see that Fall 2024 quota was just 7 and total is 39.

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by calroses

This just in: campus total at SSU is only 39 this year. When AOII colonized in 2012 (I was the Network Specialist for the colony at the time), we initiated 80 collegians and one alumna. I want to say campus total was above 100 at the time.

I've been out of the loop for years so I was very shocked to see that Fall 2024 quota was just 7 and total is 39.

Wow!. That is a stunning decline in a short period of time.


CSU Long Beach will have its formal recruitment this weekend. It was supposed to have been last weekend, but there was a scheduling conflict.
As of last week, there were 400 PNMs signed up for formal recruitment which is high for this campus.

[Cookiez17]

Originally Posted by calroses

This just in: campus total at SSU is only 39 this year. When AOII colonized in 2012 (I was the Network Specialist for the colony at the time), we initiated 80 collegians and one alumna. I want to say campus total was above 100 at the time.

I've been out of the loop for years so I was very shocked to see that Fall 2024 quota was just 7 and total is 39.

Holy cow what a drop!

[Cheerio]

This past year, I watched local high school grads in a greater-than-normal number choose to attend in-state higher-ed schools. I attribute this to the national student loan debacle, when for far too long no one had a clear idea how much they would get nor if they would get it.

However, one OOS school that DID get a high number of our local HS grads is University of South Carolina (seven new "Congrats HS Graduate!" USCarolina banners and flags flying on front porches around town).

[*winter*]

A lot of people are foregoing college altogether. I know a few recent HS grads who did vo-tech in HS and graduated with excellent job offers. No debt, no 4 years of working and attending classes.

[Iota_JWH]

For Sonoma State U, the Collegiate Panhellenic total was 129 in Fall 2018. The total from Fall 2023 is 46. Most chapters have a large portion of upperclassmen, as there are many transfer students at the school. I also have noticed the last couple years that the NPC groups are definitely "whiter" than in the past. I guess that the non-white women don't want to join the NPC chapters. (There are two local sororities, and I have no clue as to their size nor their populations.)

yep, the outlook is not good.

[Cookiez17]

Originally Posted by Iota_JWH

For Sonoma State U, the Collegiate Panhellenic total was 129 in Fall 2018. The total from Fall 2023 is 46. Most chapters have a large portion of upperclassmen, as there are many transfer students at the school. I also have noticed the last couple years that the NPC groups are definitely "whiter" than in the past. I guess that the non-white women don't want to join the NPC chapters. (There are two local sororities, and I have no clue as to their size nor their populations.)

yep, the outlook is not good.

Holy cow that's a steep drop. There was a discussion about this in the colonies thread with overall college enrollment dropping and how this would affect greek org numbers.

[navane]

Originally Posted by Iota_JWH

For Sonoma State U, the Collegiate Panhellenic total was 129 in Fall 2018. The total from Fall 2023 is 46. Most chapters have a large portion of upperclassmen, as there are many transfer students at the school. I also have noticed the last couple years that the NPC groups are definitely "whiter" than in the past. I guess that the non-white women don't want to join the NPC chapters. (There are two local sororities, and I have no clue as to their size nor their populations.)

yep, the outlook is not good.

Well, let's be clear here - Sonoma State University has far more White students to start with.


SONOMA STATE STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS:






CAL STATE DOMINGUEZ HILLS STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS:






CAL STATE LONG BEACH STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS: