Nupes that only deal with other Nupes made undergrad

Kalm07 · #1 01-31-2006, 07:53 PM

Not really messing with a lot of grads. I usually only deal with someone that was made undergrad after we have a little talk about his road to kappa Land. But their are a few grad Chaps that are kool. Just a few

ladygreek · #2 01-31-2006, 09:43 PM

So if you join an alumni chapter and it makes some new initiates, you will ignore them?

NUPE4LIFE · #3 02-01-2006, 08:15 AM

A brother is a brother enough said.

Kalm07 · #4 02-01-2006, 02:18 PM

The reason for my comments would be that I have met many Grad Chapters that have turned their backs on undergrads. They forget that they were once undergrads themselves and that some of these new brothers are young and will make mistakes. Turning your back on them instead of guiding them is something I don't think shows brotherhood. Thats why there are only a few Grad chapters that we as a whole here in Illinois are kool with.

Kalm07 · #5 02-01-2006, 02:32 PM

I feel that, a brother is a brother. I give every brother in my organization their respect. But at the same time I kick it more with brothers that I know are good. But when ever I meet another brother its nothing but respect no matter where there from.

IntegriTY1908 · #6 02-01-2006, 04:38 PM

I think this is interesting because a lot of people have a similar mentality whether they will admit it or not I have heard several undergraduate sorors say that they dont deal with people who came in through graduate chapters. When I pledged we always felt that people in the graduate chapters were just out to get us in trouble and report us for hazing violations so its hard to get close to people who you are always trying to hide things from and people who you know dont understand what it is like to be an undergraduate soror!!!!

Kalm07 · #7 02-01-2006, 08:29 PM

Well thats good to hear. Someone who knows what i'm talking about. When you are told to watch out for a certain group, brother or not its hard to trust them. I have seen other so kalled brothers turn each other in because they dont understand kause they never went through it.

teena · #8 02-01-2006, 09:25 PM

bobbyearl93 · #9 02-02-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by Kalm07
Not really messing with a lot of grads. I usually only deal with someone that was made undergrad after we have a little talk about his road to kappa Land. But their are a few grad Chaps that are kool. Just a few

I used to have that same way of thinking.

You will really miss out on meeting a lot of good brothers like that.
Believe me, I am all for a scroller getting his issue, but pledging is not always indicative of "Being a Real Man". It only means that you didn't quit. Nevertheless, there are some grad chapter brothers (even intake undergrad) that are good people, even though they weren't on that wall.

If I had to choose between a brother who pledged and is shady or a grad chapter brother who didn't pledge and keeps it real, I would rather choose the grad chapter brother. Besides, when you get older, you are supposed to grow out of that COLLEGE way of thinking (pledging included).

Of course, I never touched a scroller in my life. 4 the record

Live_Wire17 · #10 02-22-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by Kalm07
The reason for my comments would be that I have met many Grad Chapters that have turned their backs on undergrads. They forget that they were once undergrads themselves and that some of these new brothers are young and will make mistakes. Turning your back on them instead of guiding them is something I don't think shows brotherhood. Thats why there are only a few Grad chapters that we as a whole here in Illinois are kool with.

I think it would be appropriate to just say that you feel a bit leary of some grad members (can't judge all by the actions of one) instead of saying you only mess with undergrad cause like me and many others eventually your work will continue on the grad level.

ladygreek · #11 02-22-2006, 10:32 AM

Yanno, if you weren't breaking the rules in the first place you wouldn't have to worry about "trusting" brothers in alumni chapters.

It's not a matter of them not understaning, it is a matter of them knowing the harm that it could bring to the fraternity as a whole. Hopefully, someday you will get to that place, too.

Luckie1922 · #12 11-26-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

Yanno, if you weren't breaking the rules in the first place you wouldn't have to worry about "trusting" brothers in alumni chapters.

It's not a matter of them not understaning, it is a matter of them knowing the harm that it could bring to the fraternity as a whole. Hopefully, someday you will get to that place, too.

I agree. I came through graduate chapter, and I hope the work I perform speaks highly for my character. I don’t think all graduate members are seeking to undermine undergraduates or have forgotten being undergraduates. I believe as we get older we start to gain a more established prospective on how the world operates, we begin to look at our organizations not just a sorority or fraternity but as a thriving business, then become a member willing to do what it takes to grow that business. Handing out thousands and millions of dollars for avoidable incidents doesn’t benefit the members or the organization and alienating people on the actions of a few is never a good practice.

dkency · #13 03-21-2007, 12:31 AM

All I have to say is that I have experienced my beloved fraternity on the undergrad side and the graduate side. As much respect as I have for the grad chapter I would have to say that the brothers that do come through have no bond. But I also think that the brothers who are undergrads that are doing all the complaining should do something about it like graduate with a degree so you can join a graduate chapter, stop letting situations happen like they did at FAMU because it's embarrasing to the older brothers. Some of you guys sit there and think we snitch just to snitch, but what if I told you that we were a couple of lawsuits from being bankrupted? Not so pissed of with the alumni now are you? Or what if you pledge 10 weeks only to be told that Kappa Alpha Psi is no more. The one thing that some brothers don't understand and what I didn't understand as an undergrad is that Kappa Alpha Psi is more than just a Fraternity it's a business. A business that has achieved on the backs of 10 strong black men for 96 years and I will be damn if I let it be destroyed because of a few brothers who think they have something to prove. If you want to pledge then pledge, but pledge the right way!

KAY

MeezDiscreet · #14 03-21-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dkency

All I have to say is that I have experienced my beloved fraternity on the undergad side and the graduate side. As much respect as I have for the grad chapter I would have to say that the bothers that do come through have no bond. But I also think that the brothers who are undergrads that are doing all the complaining should do something about it like graduate with a degree so you can join a graduate chapter, stop letting situations happen like they did at FAMU because it's embarrasing to the older brahs. Some of you guys sit there and think we snitch just to snitch but what if I told you that we were a couple of lawsuits from being bankrupted? Not so pissed of with the alumni now are you? Or what if you pledge 10 weeks only to be told that Kappa Alpha Psi is no more. The one thing that some brothers don't understand and what I didn't understand as an undergrad is that this Kappa Alpha Psi is more than just a Fraternity it's buisiness. A business that has achieved on the backs of 10 strong black men for 96 years and I will be damn if I let it be destroyed because of a few brothers who think they have something to prove. If you want to pledge then pledge, but pledge the right way!

KAY

THA TRUTH!!!!!!!!!

KAPital PHINUst · #15 03-21-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dkency

All I have to say is that I have experienced my beloved fraternity on the undergad side and the graduate side. As much respect as I have for the grad chapter I would have to say that the bothers that do come through have no bond. But I also think that the brothers who are undergrads that are doing all the complaining should do something about it like graduate with a degree so you can join a graduate chapter, stop letting situations happen like they did at FAMU because it's embarrasing to the older brahs. Some of you guys sit there and think we snitch just to snitch but what if I told you that we were a couple of lawsuits from being bankrupted? Not so pissed of with the alumni now are you? Or what if you pledge 10 weeks only to be told that Kappa Alpha Psi is no more. The one thing that some brothers don't understand and what I didn't understand as an undergrad is that this Kappa Alpha Psi is more than just a Fraternity it's buisiness. A business that has achieved on the backs of 10 strong black men for 96 years and I will be damn if I let it be destroyed because of a few brothers who think they have something to prove. If you want to pledge then pledge, but pledge the right way!

KAY

REAL TALK!!

(especially considering that I went through grad chapter and the fact that undergraduate "pledging" in the 1990s had in my observation went completely out of control).