Do you ever think NPC will add new members?

[mlanderson]

There have been the same 26 organizations since 1951. There are quite a few social sororities/women's fraternities that could fit the bill and many of them are associate members of the local college panellenics.

Do you think NPC will ever add new member organizations? If so, which do you think are the most positioned to be granted admission?

I think:

Alpha Omega Epsilon
Kappa Beta Gamma
Phi Sigma Rho

[33girl]

To the contrary, I think NPC will lose members or splinter.

Right now the groups you mentioned don't have to follow NPC guidelines and while they may be members of college Panhellenics at some schools, that is not the case everywhere. PSR and AOE would likely have to drop their engineering focus (the same way that Alpha Chi Omega dropped their musical focus) and as far as KBG is concerned, well, there's some bad blood there.

I just don't see it happening.

[Cookiez17]

Originally Posted by 33girl

To the contrary, I think NPC will lose members or splinter.

Right now the groups you mentioned don't have to follow NPC guidelines and while they may be members of college Panhellenics at some schools, that is not the case everywhere. PSR and AOE would likely have to drop their engineering focus (the same way that Alpha Chi Omega dropped their musical focus) and as far as KBG is concerned, well, there's some bad blood there.

I just don't see it happening.

Bad blood? Did they try to join previously and it didn’t work out.

I also have thought of Kappa Delta Phi NAS but I’m not sure how they work in terms of potentially joining.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by 33girl

To the contrary, I think NPC will lose members or splinter.

Good.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by mlanderson

While I agree with this, I also think it would strengthen their membership on their campuses.

Maybe 10-15 years ago. Things are much much different now.

Originally Posted by carnation

Good.

Damn girl. Lol

[naraht]

Originally Posted by 33girl

To the contrary, I think NPC will lose members or splinter.

Right now the groups you mentioned don't have to follow NPC guidelines and while they may be members of college Panhellenics at some schools, that is not the case everywhere. PSR and AOE would likely have to drop their engineering focus (the same way that Alpha Chi Omega dropped their musical focus) and as far as KBG is concerned, well, there's some bad blood there.

I just don't see it happening.

Right now, the question is what is more likely to splinter the NPC. 1) Differences in size between the largest and the smallest or 2) some attempt to force consistency on the issue of trans women. (I don't really see anything else jumping up in the near term.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by naraht

Right now, the question is what is more likely to splinter the NPC. 1) Differences in size between the largest and the smallest or 2) some attempt to force consistency on the issue of trans women. (I don't really see anything else jumping up in the near term.

Differences in size is more likely to splinter NPC.

The eight sororities that became full NPC members in 1951 were smaller in chapter number and initiate number, on and since that date, than the other established NPC groups.

I wish I understood what those eight smaller sororities looked forward to by joining forces with the larger groups, and how those desires were and were not fulfilled through the years.

When I look at Indiana University's most recent NPC expansions, the need for additional groups was there but having all the new groups meet quota and/or have permanent housing has been a struggle.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Differences in size is more likely to splinter NPC.

The eight sororities that became full NPC members in 1951 were smaller in chapter number and initiate number, on and since that date, than the other established NPC groups.

I wish I understood what those eight smaller sororities looked forward to by joining forces with the larger groups, and how those desires were and were not fulfilled through the years.

When I look at Indiana University's most recent NPC expansions, the need for additional groups was there but having all the new groups meet quota and/or have permanent housing has been a struggle.

Is it a significant gap? I picked a prior to 1951 NPC sorority that I wasn't familiar with and a 1951 NPC full sorority I sort of was and at least looking at wikipedia, the gap doesn't look huge.

According to Wikipedia.
Sigma Kappa - (Founded 1874 - joined NPC in 1905) - 119 undergraduate chapters 226K lifetime members.
Delta Phi Epsilon - (Founded 1913 - Joined NPC in 1951) - 150+ chapters, 115 active chapters, 60K Lifetime members.

Now I know Wikipedia may be reporting different things (and I'd love an NPC report I could work from to be sure the comparison is apples to apples).

[PKT4LIFE]

For those not familiar with the process (like myself), what requirements does an sorority need in order to be even considered eligible to join NPC? I know no limitations to membership and a NPC vote must occur.

[Cheerio]

I am somewhat in agreement with 33girl, due to posts and discussions GC has previously produced regarding the subject of NPC Expansion by adding new groups.

Not sure how many GC members are privy to NPC decision-making processes and voting factions, and whether those members are willing to discuss the subject in this forum.

[*winter*]

No.

People who join groups like AOE and even KBG are looking for a different type of experience. I doubt the groups with an academic focus would want to give that up- especially since it’s been essential to their identity since their founding.

Okay, maybe not an outright no, but not through this path.

[AZ-AlphaXi]

Per the NPC Manual of information the requirements for membership in NPC are

Requirements for Membership
A women's sorority must have been established in its inter/national character for at least 13 years. All of its collegiate chapters must be established in senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and universities. It must also have
at least 14 chapters that have been established for a minimum of two years

My personal take is that any group would be very wary of joining NPC due to the unanimous agreements that must be adhered to. Especially the ones concerning extension.

[mlanderson]

Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi

Per the NPC Manual of information the requirements for membership in NPC are

Requirements for Membership
A women's sorority must have been established in its inter/national character for at least 13 years. All of its collegiate chapters must be established in senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and universities. It must also have
at least 14 chapters that have been established for a minimum of two years

My personal take is that any group would be very wary of joining NPC due to the unanimous agreements that must be adhered to. Especially the ones concerning extension.

While I agree with this, I also think it would strengthen their membership on their campuses.

[navane]

Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi

Per the NPC Manual of information the requirements for membership in NPC are

Requirements for Membership
A women's sorority must have been established in its inter/national character for at least 13 years. All of its collegiate chapters must be established in senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and universities. It must also have at least 14 chapters that have been established for a minimum of two years

Reference:

Alpha Omega Epsilon:

Inter/National Years - 30+ years
Number of Chapters (which qualify) - 45


Kappa Beta Gamma:

Inter/National Years - 50+ years
Number of Chapters (which qualify) - 15


Phi Sigma Rho:

Inter/National Years - 30+ years
Number of Chapters (which qualify) - appx 45

[LaneSig]

Questions:

#1- Could those three organizations become associate members?

#2- Does anyone know of any campus where KBG participates in recruitment?