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06-05-2002, 02:27 PM
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I heard Apple Cider Vinegar can you lose weight. Does anyone know?
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People I know who've used it haven't lost any weight. The only supplements that I've seen help people lose the weight are the thermogenic supplements (Xenadrine, Metabolife, etc.) but those can be DANGEROUS and people tend to misuse them.
So currently, the only thing I can say for sure will help you lose weight is exercise and a healthy diet. Sorry.
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06-05-2002, 05:11 PM
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Girl, I knew I could depend on you to answer my question!  Actually, I wasn't talking about pills. I was talking about the liquid! I read in "Women World" that taking a tablespoon twice a day could help you lose up to seven lbs. per month.
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06-06-2002, 12:11 PM
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Girl, I knew I could depend on you to answer my question! Actually, I wasn't talking about pills. I was talking about the liquid! I read in "Women World" that taking a tablespoon twice a day could help you lose up to seven lbs. per month.
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I am still sceptical.
Unless it was something like drinking pure vinegar made you so nauseous that you couldn't eat after that, then I don't see how in the world that would work, lol.
The only nutritional supplement that seems to work is the ephedra pills, unfortunately. I am not so down on those as I used to be, but I still don't like them really, and if anyone decides to use them go to a doctor and be certain you have no pre-existing heart conditions first. And never take more than the recommended dose- as a matter of fact don't even start out with the recommended dose, take half that.
I know that I'm a bore with all the nutrition/exercise trivia, but I grew up surrounded by people with eating disorders, and I just consider your health and body image too important to play around with, you know?
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06-06-2002, 09:43 PM
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Body for Life
Did I ever tell yall about this book?????? If not, READ IT!!! Lemme tell yall... it has these questions in the front and you basically answer them in journal form. They are really personal about yourself, so you have to be truthful. Then it asks you to set your goals of what you want to accomplish w/i the 12 weeks. Then it gives you the eating program (6 meals a day consisting of fist sized portions of 1 protien and 1 carb, you have to have a veggie with at least 2 of your meals, i think, i forget). Then it gives you the exercise regimen:
Day 1: Weight training, upper body (pics and instructions included in the appendix!!)
Day 2: 20 minute Interval aerobic training
Day 3: Weight training, lower body
Day 4: 20 minute interval aerobic training
Day 5: Weight training, upper body
Day 6: 20 minute interval aerobic training
Day 7: FREE DAY (NO EXERCISE AND EAT WHAT YOU WANT)
Now let me tell yall. I did this STRONG for a good 3 weeks. But I didn't do the food thing (it takes getting used to eating 6 times a day, even though the meals are small), I did Weight Watchers instead. My goals were to lose 20lbs and 4 inches off my waist. A good three weeks. I have been exercising here and there, that's it. But I stuck to my diet plan as well as I could. My 12 weeks will be up in about 2 weeks, I think. I've lost 18lbs and 3 inches!!! And yall, I SLACKED!!! If nothing else, his exercise program WORKS!!! I know someone PERSONALLY that did the program and lost TONS of weight!!! That's what made me get the book. But it works. And even though it's only 20 mins of aerobics, DON'T SLEEP, that interval training is NO JOKE!!!! You build muscle with the weights, that burns fat. Then you burn more with the aerobic activity. Oh, and at least 10 glasses of water, but supposed to drink half your weight in ounces. Ok, I'm rambling, and I really hope me or anyone else already talked about it... I didn't look at the whole thread... i'm lazy and trying to multitask, LOL!
But for real, get the book!!!!!!! Oh, and I don't fool with supplements. The BFL program offers them (especially for people who have a hard time with the 6 meals), but I'm str8.
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06-07-2002, 02:33 PM
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I haven't used any supplements or anything. I just cut back on what I ate and I walk about 3 miles every other day. I do crunches and I ordered those 8 minute tapes (8 min. abs, buns, legs, arms, and stretch). I try to alternate the tapes and walking or I do both on the same day. I have lost 5 pounds in two weeks. It's not a fantastic lost, but I am proud of myself. If I stick with it, I know that I will lose more. PLEASE stay away from the supplements. I have never taken them, and I don't plan on it. I mean, every body is different, but there is so much negative publicity surrounding supplement pills. I just don't want anyone in here to be harmed by them. I know that I am fairly new, but I care about you guys and I care about everyone's health.  Stick with those routines!!
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06-07-2002, 02:39 PM
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Re: Body for Life
I have that book too.
I didn't do the diet plan because I wanted to modify my own diet- making sure that I could maintain the healthy changes that I would make. I DID eat 6 meals a day though- and let me tell you it made ALL THE DIFFERENCE! When you eat six times a day, you are never really hungry, so it is MUCH easier to avoid the things you shouldn't be eating, and be healthy about what you do eat. Plus, I tried one of their supplement bars and it was AWFUL. I have never tasted anything so horrible! Pass the Slimfast shake please!
I didn't really use his exercise program either, I had to do a LOT more cardio to lose my fat, and I prefer two days of full body weights, no wasting my time.
Body For Life was a great starting off point though.
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Originally posted by Ideal08
Did I ever tell yall about this book?????? If not, READ IT!!! Lemme tell yall... it has these questions in the front and you basically answer them in journal form. They are really personal about yourself, so you have to be truthful. Then it asks you to set your goals of what you want to accomplish w/i the 12 weeks. Then it gives you the eating program (6 meals a day consisting of fist sized portions of 1 protien and 1 carb, you have to have a veggie with at least 2 of your meals, i think, i forget). Then it gives you the exercise regimen:
Day 1: Weight training, upper body (pics and instructions included in the appendix!!)
Day 2: 20 minute Interval aerobic training
Day 3: Weight training, lower body
Day 4: 20 minute interval aerobic training
Day 5: Weight training, upper body
Day 6: 20 minute interval aerobic training
Day 7: FREE DAY (NO EXERCISE AND EAT WHAT YOU WANT)
Now let me tell yall. I did this STRONG for a good 3 weeks. But I didn't do the food thing (it takes getting used to eating 6 times a day, even though the meals are small), I did Weight Watchers instead. My goals were to lose 20lbs and 4 inches off my waist. A good three weeks. I have been exercising here and there, that's it. But I stuck to my diet plan as well as I could. My 12 weeks will be up in about 2 weeks, I think. I've lost 18lbs and 3 inches!!! And yall, I SLACKED!!! If nothing else, his exercise program WORKS!!! I know someone PERSONALLY that did the program and lost TONS of weight!!! That's what made me get the book. But it works. And even though it's only 20 mins of aerobics, DON'T SLEEP, that interval training is NO JOKE!!!! You build muscle with the weights, that burns fat. Then you burn more with the aerobic activity. Oh, and at least 10 glasses of water, but supposed to drink half your weight in ounces. Ok, I'm rambling, and I really hope me or anyone else already talked about it... I didn't look at the whole thread... i'm lazy and trying to multitask, LOL! 
But for real, get the book!!!!!!! Oh, and I don't fool with supplements. The BFL program offers them (especially for people who have a hard time with the 6 meals), but I'm str8.
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06-08-2002, 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
I haven't used any supplements or anything. I just cut back on what I ate and I walk about 3 miles every other day. I do crunches and I ordered those 8 minute tapes (8 min. abs, buns, legs, arms, and stretch). I try to alternate the tapes and walking or I do both on the same day. I have lost 5 pounds in two weeks. It's not a fantastic lost, but I am proud of myself. If I stick with it, I know that I will lose more. PLEASE stay away from the supplements. I have never taken them, and I don't plan on it. I mean, every body is different, but there is so much negative publicity surrounding supplement pills. I just don't want anyone in here to be harmed by them. I know that I am fairly new, but I care about you guys and I care about everyone's health. Stick with those routines!!
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I do alot of walking too. I have lost a couple of lbs. also. I love to walk. It's so relaxing. I 'm looking to do more upper body conditioning. I just started using my 3 pound weights yesterday  I'll see how that goes.
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06-18-2002, 11:59 AM
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Not surprising, but FYI
Found this on msn.com.
Americans Becoming Fatter, Faster
Black Women, Hispanic Men Have Highest Risk of Obesity
By Jennifer Warner
June 17, 2002 -- American's aren't just piling on the extra pounds, they're piling them on faster and younger than ever before. A new report shows twice as many people were obese in 1999 than in the early 1960s, and people born in 1964 became obese up to 28% faster than those born only seven years earlier.
It's one of the first studies to take a long-term look at what makes some people more likely to become overweight than others and highlights major differences between ethnic groups, age groups, and the sexes.
"Our study clarifies who is at risk for obesity, identifies an age when this risk is particularly high, and looks at how excess weight develops over time," says study author Kathleen M. McTigue, MD, MPH, of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, in a news release.
For nearly two decades, McTigue and colleagues followed more than 9,000 men and women who were born between 1957 and 1964. Their findings are published in the June 18 issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine.
They found 27% of the people were obese by 1999, and 61% weighed more than is considered healthy. That's more than double the number of people who were obese in 1960-1962, and a 20% increase in the number of overweight Americans compared with nearly 40 years ago.
The study also found obesity developed most quickly in black women, moderately quickly in Hispanic women, and most slowly in white women. Black and Hispanic women also became overweight faster than white women, reaching overweight status in their mid to late 20s compared with mid-30s among white women.
"We could predict who would be obese at 35 to 37, based on sex, race/ethnicity, and body mass index at [age] 20 to 22," says McTigue. "This was especially striking in women. A 21-year-old woman with just a few extra pounds was quite likely to be obese by the time she was in her mid-30s."
Among men, the pattern was a little different. Hispanic men became obese most quickly compared with other groups.
The researchers say their study shows that young people who are overweight are most at risk of becoming obese as they grow older and prevention efforts should be targeted at this age group to avoid future health problems. Obesity increases a person's risk of four out of the six top causes of death in the U.S. -- heart disease, certain cancers, stroke, and diabetes.
In an editorial that accompanies the study, Robert C. Whitaker, MD, MPH, of the Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center, says future studies should explore other factors that might affect a person's risk of becoming obese, beyond race and ethnicity.
We must try to understand how other factors, such as neighborhood setting and family customs, influence diet and activity patterns, according to Whitaker.
"In our culture, all adults and children are at risk for obesity and must act to avoid it," Whitaker concludes. "Moderation is not a virtue that we easily apply to such activities as feeding and eating -- activities that give us and our loved ones so much joy."
© 2002 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
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01-06-2003, 02:27 AM
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*BUMP*
Okay, so I've been doing the gym thing for a little over a month now, but I'm still not sure if I'm doing this right. I'll usually do 40 minutes of cardio on the treadmill or stationary bike and about 20 minutes of weight training.
My question is what kind of weight training am I supposed to be doing, specifically? Free weights? Those Cybex machines? Does anybody know what I need to be doing? In general terms, of course.
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01-06-2003, 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by SweetestDiva
My question is what kind of weight training am I supposed to be doing, specifically? Free weights? Those Cybex machines? Does anybody know what I need to be doing? In general terms, of course.
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Is there someone at the gym (a staff person, trainer) who you could talk to? My job has a fitness center and I got an evaluation when I first joined and he walked me through the weight machines and told me what each one does…
As far as free weights vs. the machine, when I’m on my own, I’ll use the machines, but I also take a spin/circuit class and the instructor has us on the machines and using dumbbells for drills.
I believe that either the machines or the free weights will accomplish the same thing. I prefer the machines…If you’re trying to do as many muscle groups as you can on one machine, then the leg press will take care of your lower body and the chin/pull will take care of the upper. Let me know if you want to target a certain area, maybe I could point you in the right direction. Hope this helps…
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01-06-2003, 06:47 PM
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I am happy for you two Poplife and Wonderful08, and for everyone else who is striving to achieve their weight goal. I too was a 14, my stomach was sooo BIG I had to wear all of my shirts out side my pants and sometimes wear some of my pants unbuttoned. With a new way of eating, substitution and discipline, I came down from 165 to 147. I am still striving to get my weight down to 140 and maintain it.
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01-11-2003, 02:22 AM
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If you think about using some type of diet pill, PLEASE stay away from anything that has Efedrin in it! It speeds up your metabolism but I have heard from soo many people that it speeds up your heart rate and could cause heart attacks!
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01-29-2003, 12:51 PM
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Re: Body for Life
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Originally posted by Ideal08
Did I ever tell yall about this book?????? If not, READ IT!!! Lemme tell yall... it has these questions in the front and you basically answer them in journal form. They are really personal about yourself, so you have to be truthful. Then it asks you to set your goals of what you want to accomplish w/i the 12 weeks. Then it gives you the eating program (6 meals a day consisting of fist sized portions of 1 protien and 1 carb, you have to have a veggie with at least 2 of your meals, i think, i forget). Then it gives you the exercise regimen:
Day 1: Weight training, upper body (pics and instructions included in the appendix!!)
Day 2: 20 minute Interval aerobic training
Day 3: Weight training, lower body
Day 4: 20 minute interval aerobic training
Day 5: Weight training, upper body
Day 6: 20 minute interval aerobic training
Day 7: FREE DAY (NO EXERCISE AND EAT WHAT YOU WANT)
Now let me tell yall. I did this STRONG for a good 3 weeks. But I didn't do the food thing (it takes getting used to eating 6 times a day, even though the meals are small), I did Weight Watchers instead. My goals were to lose 20lbs and 4 inches off my waist. A good three weeks. I have been exercising here and there, that's it. But I stuck to my diet plan as well as I could. My 12 weeks will be up in about 2 weeks, I think. I've lost 18lbs and 3 inches!!! And yall, I SLACKED!!! If nothing else, his exercise program WORKS!!! I know someone PERSONALLY that did the program and lost TONS of weight!!! That's what made me get the book. But it works. And even though it's only 20 mins of aerobics, DON'T SLEEP, that interval training is NO JOKE!!!! You build muscle with the weights, that burns fat. Then you burn more with the aerobic activity. Oh, and at least 10 glasses of water, but supposed to drink half your weight in ounces. Ok, I'm rambling, and I really hope me or anyone else already talked about it... I didn't look at the whole thread... i'm lazy and trying to multitask, LOL! 
But for real, get the book!!!!!!! Oh, and I don't fool with supplements. The BFL program offers them (especially for people who have a hard time with the 6 meals), but I'm str8.
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Well, it's been how long? I think I posted this back in June. Well, I'm starting the Body for Life program again. Here is my progress:
Weight: I lost 26lbs and kept it off.
Inches: I lost a total of 12 inches off of my bust, waist, hips, thighs, and upper arms. I gained 1/2 an inch in my calves. I went from a size 20 (some stuff was a 22 ) to a size 16.
I used to wear all of my shirts outside my pants, too. I am JUST now starting to get used to tucking them in. It was a definite change for me, because I was still so self-conscious about my stomach. I do have a new sense of self-confidence, and I am happy with my weight loss, but I know I'm not where I need to be.
I've decided to start back up again. I am going to do the BFL exercise routine again along with the Weight Watchers point system. It's still hard for me to eat 6 times a day, but I am going to try to do it this time. I'm going to prepare my meals at the beginning of the week so that I can just reach in the fridge and grab what I need. I started working out again on Monday. I found a gym that is relatively cheap. And I went to an aerobics class to day and I totally enjoyed it!! The instructor was SO motivating! Even though she thoroughly kicked our tails, I'll be in her class every week.
I'm still keeping my weight loss journal. I keep a log of my exercises and what I eat each day. I also include my current weight and measurements and my goals. I need to take another BEFORE picture. *sigh* I really don't want to, but I can compare it to the last one that I took, as well as to the AFTER picture that I will take in July.
My new goal: a size 12 by July. I will NOT have heart disease!!! I wil NOT be a diabetic!!! I WILL be healthy!!!
Good luck, everyone!! No pain, no gain!!!
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01-29-2003, 03:04 PM
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Me Too!
I registered Monday on www.bodyforlife.com for the 2003 Challenge! I am excited and will let y'all know how it goes!
EDITTED:
For those that are interested in losing weight, interval training IS the key. 3 times a week I do 20 min. on the treadmill and 20 minutes if weights (using different machines) and have notices a significant difference.
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01-29-2003, 06:50 PM
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If you think about using some type of diet pill, PLEASE stay away from anything that has Efedrin in it! It speeds up your metabolism but I have heard from soo many people that it speeds up your heart rate and could cause heart attacks!
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ephedra, when used properly can aid weight loss. But the problem is the effect it has with people who have previous heart conditions. A LOT of people have themand aren't even aware of it and THAT is when you get into trouble.
Talk to a doctor about it if you are going to use it.
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