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11-30-2003, 04:08 PM
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Re: Re: Flame post (IMO)
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I don't think it's appropriate to infer/suggest that a moderator - Tom Earp doesn't "attach value" to his letters. He is an active alum, and he has been so for FAR longer than you have (and possibly will be). He also started his chapter of a 'national NIC fraternity. The concepts of marketing your org and wanting your org to succeed because you value it are not mutually exclusive. He hasn't been involved this long because he doesn't "value" his Fraternity.
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I don't think it's appropriate for you to infer/suggest that I made an assertion that Tom Earp doesn't attach values to his letters. I believe that we all have different value sets, and that each are equally valid, in the context of our individual organizations. Where I disagreed with Tom is that he asserted his value set onto that of a different GLO.
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11-30-2003, 04:10 PM
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Dec, of course did not mean you!
Just saying, OH Golly Gee Whizeer, the Newbies dont know the TRUe MANY of the Letters! Hell NO they dont, they have not been Initiated yet.
But to deny them the fact that they have Pledged themselves to s certain Orgaization and CANNOT wear The Fraterity/Soroity Letters!?
Oh, give me a damn break!
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11-30-2003, 05:53 PM
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We're allowed to wear letters as pledges. Our formal jersey has "Gamma Phi" spelled out, but when my sister-mom gave me my family letters (we have family jerseys), I wore them. Another girl in my pledge class made her own! We also made pledge class jerseys, which were the letters and our pledge nick. The only thing we couldn't wear was the formal jersey with our formal nick until after we got initiated.
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11-30-2003, 06:14 PM
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All we are allowed to wear is Sigma Delta Tau spelled out. When the girls go to Something Greek to get paddle stuff *usally a week before they get in* they aren't allowed to order letters or even buy anything with letters *keycahins, etc*. The only gifts they are giving before they get in is on big/lil night and thats usally a big/lil candle, candy jar, etc
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11-30-2003, 07:24 PM
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I don't think any AEPhis have posted on this thread yet...
Only initiated sisters are allowed to wear the Greek letters or use items that display the letters (keychains, bags, etc). New members can wear shirts that say "AEPhi" or "Alpha Epsilon Phi" spelled out.
New members "shouldn't" order letters or buy lettered items before initiation, but nobody really complained if a NM did so as long as she didn't wear/use them.
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11-30-2003, 07:47 PM
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Delta Gammas are allowed to wear letters before initiation...our girls got their jerseys (stiched letters) before initiation.
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11-30-2003, 10:01 PM
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We could wear letters as long as they were iron on, screen printed, or spelled out. We couldn't wear stitched or embroidered until initiation, and most of us got stitched letter hoodies from our big sister as an initiation gift.
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11-30-2003, 10:05 PM
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Our pledges can wear the name spelled out, but no letters until they are activated. We activate our newest class this Friday!
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11-30-2003, 10:36 PM
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Pledges wearing letters
In my sorority, pledges are not allowed to wear letters at all. They are also not allowed to wear the colors of the sorority. I think the system is different in my sorority because when pledges are "on line" no one know until they have crossed and become sisters.
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11-30-2003, 10:49 PM
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It is a tradition at my school that you do not wear letters until initiation. You can wear anything with the Fraternity or sororitys letters spelled out but nothing with the greek letters. Then as you start tos ee the new members wearing letters you know who just got in. My sorority has one tradition that goes against that which is the big always buys her little a stitched letter tote for the big little revealing, I know that the not wearing letters before initiation is a campus tradition not a Delta Zeta one though because when we were still a colony last year and our consultants came down she couldn't believe that we didn't wear letters.
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11-30-2003, 11:00 PM
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We do the same thing as in no GLO lets the NM wear letters...I just found out one of the local groups NM got in because I sawthem with letters last week! Two more sororities to go until all the girl NM's are in...non of the frat boys are in yet
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Every now & again, this discussion flares up, and our EO policy is that only the crest is forbidden for use of a New Member. Sometimes a chapter will be a little stricter and not allow their New Members to wear the letters until they're initiated.
I did get a huge laugh out of it, though, at our 150th anniversary a couple years back. The very same sister who was terribly in your face about not wanting New Members to wear letters ordered glasses with the crest on them for favors - for members, alumnae, New Members, and sundry husbands/boyfriends that were there!!! Thankfully, common sense prevailed and the New Members' glasses were kept for their initiation, and the men were smart enough to not tussle with by-the-book alumnae!!
edited for grammar!
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12-01-2003, 01:18 AM
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This summer at our Leadership Training School, we were told that new members are indeed allowed to wear letters. Of course, this was met with dissent, but what National says goes!
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12-01-2003, 01:35 AM
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In my Alpha Phi Omega chapter, we were not allowed to wear letters or any APO paraphernalia as pledges. We could wear our pledge pins and that was it.
As for paddles, our chapter's tradition was to give paddles to the graduating seniors at our last meeting of the semester. The paddles were presented to each person by brothers who knew them pretty well, and talked about what that person brought to the organization and stuff. It was really meaningful. I still have my paddle hanging on the wall above my bed.
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12-01-2003, 04:14 AM
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Wow, some of your chapters, no offense, have lots of rules. We allow our NMs to wear letters (stiched or printed) (spelled out or letters) but do not allow them to wear the crest until after initation. We give the new initiates our chapter shirt, with the crest on it, to them on that day. Otherwise you are watching what people wear, and making them uncomfortable. They may not understand the full signifigance, but they understand that it is something special and that they will eventually mean more, and when you do wear, that same shirt, it has a new meaning after initiation.
blah...don't like lots of rules about clothing, sounds too big brotherish for me.
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