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10-04-2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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Originally posted by RACooper
I think that is a rather weak arguement - basically because there is just as much religous related/motivated violence out there in the news, but you seem to highlight really only those stories that feature Islam.
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Coop, Rudey ceded this very point - it is also implicit in his overall view that no religions are truly 'peaceful' in totality.
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For example if you log onto Netscape today you can see a story about a Catholic priest commiting sucide after killing two people at a funeral home... or how about the sectarian violence that flared up last month in Ireland? The thing is Islam is as much a religion of peace as Christianity is - radicals and hatemongers can hide within the folds of any religion really, it just important that you realize that the vocal/active minority does not always represent the majority or the true faith.
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It's not a matter of 'majority vs. minority' within the individual religions - you're using the wrong comparison, and I'm not sure how else to get you to see this.
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10-04-2005, 05:07 PM
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There are approximately 73 different sects within Islam. Then, there are sub-sects within those sects. One of the major complain I've heard about talking to Muslims is the lack of central authority. What maybe considered blasphemy in one country might be totally acceptable to another. For instance, in Indonesia, many will pray then present offering to different spirits or ancestors. That will never be acceptable in the Middle East.
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10-04-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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Coop, Rudey ceded this very point - it is also implicit in his overall view that no religions are truly 'peaceful' in totality.
It's not a matter of 'majority vs. minority' within the individual religions - you're using the wrong comparison, and I'm not sure how else to get you to see this.
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I don't need a lesson on bias from a guy hellbent on attacking America every chance he has.
Cooper should spend more of his time protesting against murderous regimes like North Korea or virtually any Arab country instead of protesting the US (on greekchat.com).
And perhaps he should spend more time protesting the massacres of so many Shites by Sunnis instead of protesting against the Iraq war (on greekchat.com).
-Rudey
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10-04-2005, 05:22 PM
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Ok people, tone it down. Bring the discussion back to the topic at hand, or at least closed to it.
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10-04-2005, 06:11 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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I don't need a lesson on bias from a guy hellbent on attacking America every chance he has.
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10-04-2005, 07:08 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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I don't need a lesson on bias from a guy hellbent on attacking America every chance he has.
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Hey now if you can spout off about me having an anti-American bias - I can spout off about you having an anti-Arab and anti-Islam bias... fair's fair.
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Cooper should spend more of his time protesting against murderous regimes like North Korea or virtually any Arab country instead of protesting the US (on greekchat.com).
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How do you know I don't  It's just that GC really isn't the forum to protest North Korea, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Sudan, etc. Mainly because it'd be an empty protest/statement here because of the little to no impact it would have on public opinion or government policy...
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And perhaps he should spend more time protesting the massacres of so many Shites by Sunnis instead of protesting against the Iraq war (on greekchat.com).
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Gee Rudey I hope you don't need me to point out that the Iraq War and the Sunni/Shia sectarian violence are just a little bit connected  But nice to know that my opinion on the illegality of the Iraq War some how invalidates all my other opinions... you might want to be careful because you're attack arguement style might be infringing on FOXNews proprietary methods.
All that aside what have I ever said that made you eronously think that I don't deplore the sectarian violence? I guess all my other posts talking about the stupidity of hatred must have slipped your memory huh?
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10-04-2005, 07:10 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
I think you are mistaken.
-Rudey
--I have already spoken and you simply don't understand so please don't speak about it with me.
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Lies and Accusations from a man his own chapter brothers called a liar and want nothing to do with. [/B]
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10-04-2005, 07:17 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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I think you are mistaken.
-Rudey
--I have already spoken and you simply don't understand so please don't speak about it with me.
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Awh muffin did my words make your head hurt with all the thinking? I'm sorry
Oh hey if you are going to "threaten" me with that silly post of yours please understand three things: 1) the subject matter of the email was dealt with, and is a dead issue for me and Craig; 2) you don't understand the context of what it is even talking about, but you think you do which is cute; 3) I don't care
But hey don't let me stop you; post away because hey it makes you look like a pretty petty guy (not that more evidence is needed).
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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Awh muffin did my words make your head hurt with all the thinking? I'm sorry
Oh hey if you are going to "threaten" me with that silly post of yours please understand three things: 1) the subject matter of the email was dealt with, and is a dead issue for me and Craig; 2) you don't understand the context of what it is even talking about, but you think you do which is cute; 3) I don't care
But hey don't let me stop you; post away because hey it makes you look like a pretty petty guy (not that more evidence is needed).
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Stop with the attacks and accusations.
You are doing the attacking.
You are the one that threatened to kill me. You are also the one that your chapter brothers say threatened other brothers. You are also the one that your brothers had banned.
You are done Cooper. I had my discussion with Jubilance and if you can't understand something as usual, then so be it.
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10-04-2005, 07:30 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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Stop with the attacks and accusations.
You are doing the attacking.
You are the one that threatened to kill me. You are also the one that your chapter brothers say threatened other brothers. You are also the one that your brothers had banned.
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Hahaha... Really I'm "banned" now huh? From what exactly? I'd really like to know what it is you think I'm banned from... because I'm sitting here in the chapter's front room and Brad (the prez. and my little) here hasn't heard of this "banning" you like to throw about - actually for that matter neither has Craig.... but I'll ask around just for you
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10-04-2005, 07:41 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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Hahaha... Really I'm "banned" now huh? From what exactly? I'd really like to know what it is you think I'm banned from... because I'm sitting here in the chapter's front room and Brad (the prez. and my little) here hasn't heard of this "banning" you like to throw about - actually for that matter neither has Craig.... but I'll ask around just for you [/B]
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"When you lived in the house, you were removed by the house board as a problem tenet. "
" Threatening the chapter or attacking members will not longer be tolerated. If you continue to harass the chapter or Alumni Board in any fashion, I will be forced to contact the Police and file for a restraining order.
Again, You've been told in Exec, you've been told as a friend, now you're being told by someone that has lost any and all respect for you. LEAVE THE CHAPTER ALONE ! "
I've seen Silence of the Lambs and you fit the profile surely. Again I would like to ask, just like your chapter, to have you leave me alone. Thank you.
Anyway, back to the topic. How does one have sex with a camel? Camels are pretty tall and they don't just sit there taking it. Any ideas?
-Rudey
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10-04-2005, 08:32 PM
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Re: Re: Sarai's Story
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This is an incredibly sad story.
I have a question though...what is saving someone from harm? Not allowing them to marry Muslims? Because EVERY religion has fanatics that practice their religion incorrectly and twist it for their own personal gain. Islam shouldn't be signaled out.
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It saves people - particularly women - who don't know how easy it is to go to a foreign country, and, due to their naivete, end up in a position where they could lose custody of their children, their citizenship, and possibly their lives.
In this case, yes, I've singled out Islam - because of what happened to " Sarai". Had she gone to, say, Russia, and Orthodoxy had done the same thing to her, I would be outspoken about Orthodoxy.
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10-04-2005, 08:53 PM
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would you have one hump or two?
we'd journey from Cairo to Baghdad
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10-04-2005, 09:18 PM
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Whoever thought that a post about a poor camel could generate such heat?
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