Have You All Read . . .

[TRUBLUBU2]

Originally posted by VirtuousErudite
I read it and I've really been wondering if I am wrong for feeling this way but the two black girls over in the forum who are members of NPC orgs are really irking me. I have no problem with the fact that they decided to go NPC but it sorta bothers me that they made the comment that "I would never date a black man" and one of them went as far as to say "all my friends are white". Maybe I'm being extra sensitive but it just makes me sick to see things like that and I may be reading too much into this but I wonder if they even like black people in general.

i don't think you were too sensitive in making your assessment of the two black women...i was puzzled and saddened as well (and for their sakes, too) by their comments. it's one thing to date other races, but to limit yourself to one race and brag about having race-exclusive friendships is just PLAIN IGNORANT! think about how those comments would sound coming from two white women...i also wonder if their statements were taken as positive and complimentary by the posters who consider themselves "white"...

i find their declarations especially telling...i mean, did ANY of the "others" feel the need to state that they "would never date a white man/woman" or that "all my friends are black"? if i missed it, please let me know...thanks!

i, too, liked the fact that many who posted were "straight up" and basically admitted that bigotry DOES still exist and is still being taught in families. honesty of that type, in such a forum and in life, is a very rare pleasure, indeed.

perhaps, if there were more candid speech EVERYDAY, we'd have fewer misunderstandings--and we'd know EXACTLY where people stood.

[DELTAQTE]

and more

Man I wish I had come across that thread earlier. I was also offended at UF saying "You black chicks" damn we can't even be respected and called women?

whatever!


QTE

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by Steeltrap
But what I wonder is how can you be raised by a black parent or two and have such negative attitudes? It does boggle the mind.

If you watch 'Good Fences' on Showtime, you won't have to wonder.

Edit:
A response made by CT4 (G Fab Thread

She registered in January 2002 -- new my AZZ. Even if she was new to GC, she is not a new college student. Not everything that is done in the hip hop world is meant to be emulated. [bold]College is supposed to be where the leaders are, but hey I guess some of you are the leaders. Look at Bush.

LMAO

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
If you watch 'Good Fences' on Showtime, you won't have to wonder.

I need to watch that when it comes back on rerun.

But I also got to thinking about this topic and Janet Cooke. For those who don't know, Cooke is the disgraced Washington Post reporter who had to return the 1982 Pulitzer Price after making up a fake story about an 8-year-old heroin addict.

Ms. Cooke had a lot of the same issues we're talking about on this board. With that in mind, I found a GQ story on her, read it and picked up on several things that dovetail with this topic:

Her father, who was one of the top executives at the Toledo, Ohio gas company at one time, told her that the other black kids in their AfAm neighborhood "are not smart enough or cultured enough to be your playmates."
WTF?

Also, once she worked at the Post, she wasn't even cordial or civil to her AfAm coworkers. And other people noticed this -- in fact, her editor mentioned it in her job performance evaluation and said that Ms. Cooke should at least say hello to three black male reporters who had access to Ben Bradlee, who was the editor-in-chief at that time.

The editor also suggested to Ms. Cooke that "perhaps you might want to make some black friends within the newsroom. Maybe that would ease the pains you have in your stomach."

Well, suffice it to say, Ms. Cooke didn't learn.

[librasoul22]

I think I have a rep over on Chit Chat as being the resident "militant".

There have been racial topics aplenty over there, these are just the latest. (search "prejudism"...it will offer hours of unbridled entertainment, promise!) Most of them end up with a zillion posts and no resolutions. Still, I am compelled to respond. I guess it is just my stubborness. And you know, it is really difficult because I am almost SURE they sign off GC thinking "man, black people are hyper-sensitive about every little thing." But still, I just feel that it is better to at least attempt to show them another perspective so they think twice about doing something ignorant like a ghetto fab party.

I have actually learned alot on Chit Chat (part of it is how to better deal with ignorance), and I post there almost everyday. I find it to be more light-hearted and more "anything goes" that BGLO boards. I mean, can anyone who checked the "Offended" thread fathom that being here or on AKA, ZPhiB, or SGrho? LOL.

At the same time, it is an eye-opener because, as Steeltrap said, I am almost positive that some of them have only been exposed to Black people (and by that I mean Black people who are CONSCIOUS of their blackness) through the media. When they post certain things that seem close-minded and ignorant without batting an eyelash, it sort of bothers me. But hey, I think CT4 once said that GC is a microcosm of real life, so best be equipped to deal!

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by librasoul22
I think I have a rep over on Chit Chat as being the resident "militant".

There have been racial topics aplenty over there, these are just the latest. (search "prejudism"...it will offer hours of unbridled entertainment, promise!) Most of them end up with a zillion posts and no resolutions. Still, I am compelled to respond. I guess it is just my stubborness. And you know, it is really difficult because I am almost SURE they sign off GC thinking "man, black people are hyper-sensitive about every little thing." But still, I just feel that it is better to at least attempt to show them another perspective so they think twice about doing something ignorant like a ghetto fab party.

I have actually learned alot on Chit Chat (part of it is how to better deal with ignorance), and I post there almost everyday. I find it to be more light-hearted and more "anything goes" that BGLO boards. I mean, can anyone who checked the "Offended" thread fathom that being here or on AKA, ZPhiB, or SGrho? LOL.

At the same time, it is an eye-opener because, as Steeltrap said, I am almost positive that some of them have only been exposed to Black people (and by that I mean Black people who are CONSCIOUS of their blackness) through the media. When they post certain things that seem close-minded and ignorant without batting an eyelash, it sort of bothers me. But hey, I think CT4 once said that GC is a microcosm of real life, so best be equipped to deal!

You, my friend, are doing the Lord's work by trying to educate and give perspective. And you're not THAT militant.

I suppose that I'm just too old and worn-out to deal with ignorance and too jaded to constantly give people who should know better (but don't) Black People 101 classes.

Having said that, I did post in one of the prejudism threads because the instigator absolutely needed to be checked and should have lost posting privileges. Sorry, I don't consider a MB free speech -- although I'm a journo, I'm not a fan of unbridled First Amendment rights.

[CrimsonTide4]

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29628


Well I just be DAMNED!!!!

I have not read the article but the comments of HOOSIER were SO UNNECESSARY!!!

[Gina1201]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29628


Well I just be DAMNED!!!!

I have not read the article but the comments of HOOSIER were SO UNNECESSARY!!!

The link to the article did not work. CT4, I agree with you 100%. His comments were NOT needed.

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by Gina1201
The link to the article did not work. CT4, I agree with you 100%. His comments were NOT needed.

Article did not work for me either. I will do a search for KAPsi and hazing to see what this latest incident involves.

[CrimsonTide4]

This is from another site, local Louisiana News Channel. . . http://www.ktbs.com/news/education.html




NSU FRATERNITY MEMBERS ARRESTED IN HAZING INCIDENT
02-14-2003

Eleven fraternity members at Northwestern State University have been arrested and their fraternity has been suspended for alleged hazing of a pledge.

A twelfth suspect was expected to surrender today.

The case involves Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity. NSU police detective Doug Prescott said a fraternity pledge was beaten during initiation ceremonies Feb. 2 and Feb. 9 at two off-campus locations.

The pledge -- who has resigned from the university -- suffered bruises to his upper body but his injuries were not serious, Prescott said.

The suspects face charges of simple battery, aggravated battery and hazing. NSU police have not have not yet released their names, saying it could affect the investigation.

Kappa Alpha Psi has been suspended from the university pending completion of the investigation, an NSU spokesman said. He said the fraternity was cooperating in the investigation.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29628


Well I just be DAMNED!!!!

I have not read the article but the comments of HOOSIER were SO UNNECESSARY!!!

Well, he actually had the nerve to post a thread about how he would never be black. I reported it and it was locked. Remember, this is the same creature that referred to Alpha Phi Alpha as a "chicken" fraternity in another post.

[DELTAQTE]

And honestly y'all, I think quite a few White GLO don't think we are "important". Delta's on my campus are pretty cool with the a few of them(Sigma Chi, Delta Sigma Phi, etc) and one day we were all in a circle at a Sigma Chi party talking. I asked them "seriously, how do you see the NPHC?". They were REALLY honest and told us that most of them on campus don't think we count because our chapters arent that big, and we barely have any houses. And a few said that we have only been around between 70-90 years and that isn't very long(what???? ).

It was a very honest convo and I'm glad that we got raw with it. We told them how some of us felt, but we weren't speaking for all BGLO's. This was about 2 years ago.



QTE

[cinamin1]

Originally posted by Dionysus
Parents are just one source of influence, peers and enviroment outside the house can be just as strong influences....not in all cases though, just some.

To back how true this quote is...
Have yall seen the movie on Showtime called "Good Fences"?
Starred Whoopi Goldberg and Danny Glover--it was about a balck family "moving on up".

[CrimsonTide4]

More stimulating (NO REALLY) convo in Greek Life about the Desegregation of Universoty of Alabama's Greek System:

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29940

[sigmadiva]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
More stimulating (NO REALLY) convo in Greek Life about the Desegregation of Universoty of Alabama's Greek System:

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=29940

There are about two or three threads on this topic. It got started by someone who asked about Melody Twilley, a Black U of Alabama student who went through NPC rush and was not given a bid. Some say she had a bad attidue throughout the rush process. But, she 'stated' (I don't know her exact words) that she was not given a bid because she is Black.

Anyway, I have participated in some of the U of A threads and I try to emphasize that NPHC sororites are very strong in our community so we, as Black women, look to join them. I suggested that ZTA and Phi Mu, as examples, should be stronger in the minority (read Black) community so if they truly want Black members then when we see them in our community a young Black woman can make that choice between SGR and ZTA if she wants to. I am not holding my breath on seeing NPC in my neighborhood.

btw, hoosier IS ALWAYS posting negative articles on BGLOs and Blacks in general. He/She has some real issues.