Was young...Made a huge mistake...

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by yellowflower
I've also got you to thank for convincing me that I cant stop the "lie" because of the consequences. I can assure you that i know "Delta" as I was even asked to assist with the chapter here.... I told you most of my friends are Deltas and we "talk" ane I fit right in... I just know what I have to do when we relocate...

I come back from fellowshipping with 15,000 of my real sorors and read this isht. You don't know who all is on this board and trust me your story will be circulated. Relocation won't help you.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Same here. I honestly don't think this is for real. But then again wasn't there a report of a woman in PA who got into a graduate chapter without having a degree??

And became chapter president and attended a national convention as the voting delegate. But she had forged all of her credentials and changed her name and became a school superintendent. The school system in which she was an administrator finally caught her.

Her whole life was a lie (even her daughter didn't know the truth) and it sounds like Yellowflower is following suit.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Public Service Announcement

Sorors, Fellow Greeks of the NPHC, NPC, IFC, etc. etc. etc., and respective interests, allow me to say just a few words.

1. To all of my sorors and greeks in the NPHC,
YellowFlower is not the only person doing this and thinking this way. She is just one of many to step forward. I know it is maddening, frustrating, mind-blowing, exasperating, etc. to read her words and know that real or not, folks really do feel this way. We know why we joined Delta or whatever org you chose and to see others shortcut their way into the fold can hurt, but I just ask us, the ones who really joined, to remember the ideals of our orgs.

2. Also, please please work to make sure that this year (if this policy is not in place) that all members show their MEMBERSHIP CARDS and DRIVER's LICENSE or another official pictorial identification card to gain access to meetings. We can see already how easy it is for folks to claim membership to orgs. Unless we ask to see PROOF, we never know who could be sitting in our meetings. Even someone who has been sitting up in meetings for years, might not have the credentials to be doing so.

3. Also to our collegiate sorors and fellow collegiate Greeks, it is easy for folks to transfer from one school to another claiming that they pledged last spring at XYZ college but demand proof. Call that chapter's president or the regional officers or national officers to have PROOF that Cleetisha Wilkerson really did join Delta at Sidewalk State University and can legitimately become active with the Delta chapter at University of Sidewalks.

4. Finally, no matter how much a person can irritate, aggravate, or just plain old piss us off, please let us not call them anything rhyming with ITCH but starts with the first consonant. I cannot tell you what to think, but please respect yourself and this forum enough not to go there with that person.

I thank you all for your participation in the Delta forum and welcome your continued participation in the future.

CT4, quick hijack of this very good post: CTFU at "Cleetisha." Thanks for the laugh.

[TonyB06]

Originally posted by ladygreek
And became chapter president and attended a national convention as the voting delegate. But she had forged all of her credentials and changed her name and became a school superintendent. The school system in which she was an administrator finally caught her.

Her whole life was a lie (even her daughter didn't know the truth) and it sounds like Yellowflower is following suit.

This is amazing (as has been this whole thread). In our chapter we tell neos all the time "do not roll out wearing letters or 'nalia unless you know your stuff because you'll be seen and YOU MOST DEFINITELY WILL BE CHALLENGED!" At conventions, I've seen seargeant-at-arms, and other "ole heads," who run into bruhs who don't know what they should. After "dealing" with the bruh, their next question is usually "now who made you? and where is your Dean?"

Yellowflower cleary needs prayer and counseling as her issues go farrrrr deeper than DST, IMO. But in a way, her story points to the "mysteries" and "secrets" behind all our orgs. They may look odd to outsiders, but there is a reason we do what we do.....

[TheEpitome1920]

Originally posted by TonyB06
This is amazing (as has been this whole thread). In our chapter we tell neos all the time "do not roll out wearing letters or 'nalia unless you know your stuff because you'll be seen and YOU MOST DEFINITELY WILL BE CHALLENGED!" At conventions, I've seen seargeant-at-arms, and other "ole heads," who run into bruhs who don't know what they should. After "dealing" with the bruh, their next question is usually "now who made you? and where is your Dean?"

See this is one difference I've noticed between fraternities and sororities. I don't think women challenge or grip one another as much as men do. However, I believe that its a small world. If I don't know someone who knows you I WILL call IHQ for confirmation.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally posted by arrowgirl
This just really disgusts me.

Greekchat moderators should be able to get her IP address, which would be a stepping stone to taking care of this, especially if she posted at work (apparently a university). Then you could have your nationals contact the school, and they can check out stuff from there.

I know they can do something if they have the IP address, I got some harassing emails once at school, and the person I talked to told me that they could pinpoint the exact computer and as I knew the time sent, they could find out who was on it at that time (due to logs, or who works at that computer, etc.) I didn't end up pursuing it as the person stopped sending the emails, but if Greekchat can get their IP that could be the start of the end for this chick, depending on how much work you want to put into her getting her just desserts.

Unfortunately, she hasn't actually violated the TOS, so I am not sure that John can go giving out her IP.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Okay, I am playing on hypotheticals here, and just wondering, but you can tell me to STFU if I am asking too many questions...

Assuming:
1. This story is true
2. Yellowflower is mentally unstable, in a manner that can be clinically diagnosed

Would she ever be considered for membership if she got help/meds/whatever, or would you still be as angry as you are now?

It is hard for me to view it from the NPHC perspective, because we all know that the NPC recruitment and pledging processes are very different, and in many cases we don't have to "earn" our letters in the same way.

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Okay, I am playing on hypotheticals here, and just wondering, but you can tell me to STFU if I am asking too many questions...

Assuming:
1. This story is true
2. Yellowflower is mentally unstable, in a manner that can be clinically diagnosed

Would she ever be considered for membership if she got help/meds/whatever, or would you still be as angry as you are now?

It is hard for me to view it from the NPHC perspective, because we all know that the NPC recruitment and pledging processes are very different, and in many cases we don't have to "earn" our letters in the same way.

If all things remained the same about YellowFlower, but make them applicable to PHI MU, what would the answer be?

[Boom_Quack13]

Originally posted by TonyB06
This is amazing (as has been this whole thread). In our chapter we tell neos all the time "do not roll out wearing letters or 'nalia unless you know your stuff because you'll be seen and YOU MOST DEFINITELY WILL BE CHALLENGED!" At conventions, I've seen seargeant-at-arms, and other "ole heads," who run into bruhs who don't know what they should. After "dealing" with the bruh, their next question is usually "now who made you? and where is your Dean?"

Yellowflower cleary needs prayer and counseling as her issues go farrrrr deeper than DST, IMO. But in a way, her story points to the "mysteries" and "secrets" behind all our orgs. They may look odd to outsiders, but there is a reason we do what we do.....

Personally, I don't go around gripping people who claim to be my soror. I don't see the grip as a real challenge. It is something special amongst known sorors. I'm not one to challenge people anyway. I'm a neo. But there would definitely be proper checks before allowing someone into a chapter meeting. My best friend, who is your soror, had to ask me to leave her house once when I took a Zeta perp to meet her. I had no idea that the girl was perping. She's my cousin's fiance'!!! That was my first time personally witnessing a perp situation. That was before I was a Delta. I thought that my friend may have taken things too far. But when I got my letters and ran up on a couple of perp situations, I felt her. I don't think perps really understand the magnitude of what they are doing. They know it's wrong, but they don't know how deeply wrong it is.

[Glitterkitty]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
If all things remained the same about YellowFlower, but make them applicable to PHI MU, what would the answer be?

I believe if a chapter found out a girl was wearing nalia and hanging out, they really couldn't do much about it in the NPC. If that girl were to transfer to another school, unless she put out a memo, we'd never know it. With over 1,000 pnm's going through recruitment, it is very unlikely she'd be figured out. She may very well join at another school and there's not really much we could do.

But we don't freek out as bad about wearing different letters. Our recruitment shirts have ALL NPC groups on them. I wear my boyfriends letters and he wears mine and no one cares. It's just different. That's why the previous poster asked what she did. It's looked at a little differently.

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by Glitterkitty
I believe if a chapter found out a girl was wearing nalia and hanging out, they really couldn't do much about it in the NPC. If that girl were to transfer to another school, unless she put out a memo, we'd never know it. With over 1,000 pnm's going through recruitment, it is very unlikely she'd be figured out. She may very well join at another school and there's not really much we could do.

But we don't freek out as bad about wearing different letters. Our recruitment shirts have ALL NPC groups on them. I wear my boyfriends letters and he wears mine and no one cares. It's just different. That's why the previous poster asked what she did. It's looked at a little differently.

I understand all of that since I do have a pretty good understanding of NPC in general.

Basically, what I am saying is NO COMMENT.

[The Truth]

Sounds like apples and oranges to me.

[ram229]

Hello everyone,

I'm new to GreekChat and am really enjoying the posts.

It appears to me that your outrage regarding this misguided young lady is similar to the outrage exhibited by my brothers and sisters of the law when someone is found to be engaged in the unauthorized practice of law. In our case, this person is taking money out of our pockets and possibly making the profession look bad if they are giving out bad advice. I look forward to one day joining an organization such as Delta where there is such fierce loyalty and pride. Pray for her and be gentle in showing her the errors of her ways. Don't put too much of a whoopin' on her behind!

[CrimsonTide4]

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