Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by Maman

Do PNMs know how many 'beds' are open at each house? Does that factor into strategy? Are the sororities roughly equal in member total? In 2012 average chapter size was 156.

No, PNMs are not told how many openings each chapter has available. But a savvy PNM could make an educated guess by looking at last year's stats from recruitment. Most chapters will take a similar number of girls this year as they did last year. For example, if XYZ took 50 women, I would expect them to take between 45-55 this year. Also, DPhiE will be colonizing in late January at the conclusion of recruitment. Historically speaking, they could take any where from 80-120 women initially.

[DubaiSis]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

No, PNMs are not told how many openings each chapter has available. But a savvy PNM could make an educated guess by looking at last year's stats from recruitment.

And the savvy rushee would use that information when making lists. There is a HUGE range in number of girls each chapter will take. Keeping a couple of the high number chapters in your upper group could really help out later. And no, nobody here is going to do that work for you. But DEFINITELY remember, your ranking only comes in to play to the extent that the chapters invite you back. Many and maybe most girls don't have full schedules after round 1. And that's ok. If nothing else a light round 2 schedule will give you precious time to rest so you can be your fully enthusiastic self at the houses who did invite you.

[IUHoosiergirl88]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

And the savvy rushee would use that information when making lists. There is a HUGE range in number of girls each chapter will take. Keeping a couple of the high number chapters in your upper group could really help out later. And no, nobody here is going to do that work for you. But DEFINITELY remember, your ranking only comes in to play to the extent that the chapters invite you back. Many and maybe most girls don't have full schedules after round 1. And that's ok. If nothing else a light round 2 schedule will give you precious time to rest so you can be your fully enthusiastic self at the houses who did invite you.

This. Not having 14 houses after round 1 or 8 houses after round 2 may seem like the end of the world, but let me promise you, it's not. Talk to an active during round 8 of 8 and that's the quality of conversations your full schedule PNMs are having

[suze81]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

And the savvy rushee would use that information when making lists. There is a HUGE range in number of girls each chapter will take. Keeping a couple of the high number chapters in your upper group could really help out later. And no, nobody here is going to do that work for you. But DEFINITELY remember, your ranking only comes in to play to the extent that the chapters invite you back. Many and maybe most girls don't have full schedules after round 1. And that's ok. If nothing else a light round 2 schedule will give you precious time to rest so you can be your fully enthusiastic self at the houses who did invite you.

So I'm trying to give my daughter (PNM @ IU) some help with making her ranking list decisions...fortunately they only need to list their "bottom 9" chapters on Sunday night, but she has not seen any statistics about chapter sizes and pledge class sizes from 2013 in her recruitment packet. So would appreciate any advice about how she can try to determine the size of last years' pledge classes so that she can, as recommended above, keep some of the high number chapters in her upper group? Thanks!

[33girl]

There should be a recruitment 2012-2013 thread in this forum started by irishpipes. It lists all the NPC chapters nationwide and the number of women they took (alphabetical by state). I'd link but still figuring out the new phone :-)

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by suze81

So I'm trying to give my daughter (PNM @ IU) some help with making her ranking list decisions...fortunately they only need to list their "bottom 9" chapters on Sunday night, but she has not seen any statistics about chapter sizes and pledge class sizes from 2013 in her recruitment packet. So would appreciate any advice about how she can try to determine the size of last years' pledge classes so that she can, as recommended above, keep some of the high number chapters in her upper group? Thanks!

Last year's data:

Indiana University
Bloomington, IN
December 1-2, 2012 (Open house), and January 3-7, 2013 (Invitationals)
No Quota Set
Campus Total Not Set
******************
Kappa Alpha Theta Beta 1870 (45?)
Kappa Kappa Gamma Delta 1873 (40)
Pi Beta Phi Indiana Beta 1893
Delta Gamma Theta 1898 (42)
Delta Zeta Epsilon 1909 (52)
Alpha Omicron Pi Beta Phi 1916-1996/1999 (52)
Delta Delta Delta Delta Omicron 1917 (37)
Sigma Kappa Tau 1918-1994
Theta Phi Alpha Zeta 1920-1959/2012 (52)
Phi Mu Delta Alpha 1920 (46?)
Phi Omega Pi Xi 1922-?
Alpha Chi Omega Alpha Mu 1922
Zeta Tau Alpha Alpha Xi 1922
Chi Omega Theta Beta 1922
Kappa Delta Sigma Upsilon 1923-1941/1955 (52)
Alpha Delta Pi Beta Alpha 1926-1952/1984 (83+1)
Sigma Delta Tau Upsilon 1940
Alpha Xi Delta Beta Pi 1946-1970/1987 (47)
Delta Phi Epsilon Delta Delta 1946-1952/Colony Spring 2014
Alpha Gamma Delta Beta Delta 1947 (55)
Alpha Phi Beta Tau 1947
Gamma Phi Beta Beta Phi 1957 (48)
Alpha Epsilon Phi Epsilon Epsilon 1958 (41?)
Sigma Sigma Sigma Epsilon Xi 1989-1994
Alpha Sigma Alpha Epsilon Phi 1990?-1994/Colony Fall 2012 (Fall Colony 101/Winter FR 60)

[DubaiSis]

And have that 11th party be at a party that doesn't have a prestigious reputation and you'll blame it on AWKWARD, when really it's exhaustion. Keep note of what ORDER you saw each house. You remember parties 3-4/7-9 as great and 1/2/5/6 as ok and 10/11 as terrible? It's you, not them.

[ForeverRoses]

The start of 21 party has been pushed back to 3 pm on Thursday. I don't know the complete schedule other than that but it is going to make 4 impossible days even worse. Also no pnm will be punished if they cannot make it back to IU because if the weather. ( not sure exactly what that means either)

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

The start of 21 party has been pushed back to 3 pm on Thursday. I don't know the complete schedule other than that but it is going to make 4 impossible days even worse. Also no pnm will be punished if they cannot make it back to IU because if the weather. ( not sure exactly what that means either)

Looking forward to hearing your take on the new schedule and how it's working. Good luck to everyone involved.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

Looking forward to hearing your take on the new schedule and how it's working. Good luck to everyone involved.

13 parties on Friday. We will be going from 9am to 920 pm with one break. Then we get to get up Saturday and do it all again!

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

13 parties on Friday. We will be going from 9am to 920 pm with one break. Then we get to get up Saturday and do it all again!

Doesn't this type of schedule fall under the concept of hazing if chapters do it - to their members, their pledges, etc? I don't understand how schools can require this type of schedule.

[IUHoosiergirl88]

Originally Posted by DGTess

Doesn't this type of schedule fall under the concept of hazing if chapters do it - to their members, their pledges, etc? I don't understand how schools can require this type of schedule.

Normally the schedule is ever so slightly more relaxed (9 am -8 pm day 1, 9 am-6 pm day 2)...most actives are just used to it, it's part of having 21 chapters unfortunately

For anyone who's interested, here is the new 21 party schedule:
Thursday, January 9th
3:00 - 3:30 / 3:50 - 4:20 / 4:40 - 5:10 / 5:30 - 6:00 / 6:20 - 6:50 / 7:10 - 7:40 / 8:00 - 8:30 / 8:50 - 9:20

Friday, January 10th
9:00 - 9:30 / 9:50 - 10:20 / 10:40 - 11:10 / 11:30 - 12:00 / 12:20 - 12:50 / 1:10 - 1:40 / BREAK 1:40 - 3:50 / 3:50 - 4:20 / 4:40 - 5:10 / 5:30 - 6:00 / 6:20 - 6:50 / 7:10 - 7:40 /8:00 - 8:30 / 8:50 - 9:20

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

The start of 21 party has been pushed back to 3 pm on Thursday. I don't know the complete schedule other than that but it is going to make 4 impossible days even worse. Also no pnm will be punished if they cannot make it back to IU because if the weather. ( not sure exactly what that means either)

My guess - it means that any chapter can invite a PNM to 2nd round if they want, regardless if she was able to attend their 21 party.
It could also mean that if say she can only attend 12 parties of first round - then she can choose which ones and hope for the best?

[Sciencewoman]

If my daughter complains again this week about their horrific 3 day/6 chapter recruitment schedule (she sounded exhausted Sunday night and was complaining about losing her voice because "we practiced singing so much!"), I will remind her that she could be at Indiana and life on the other side could be much, much, much worse....

[IndianaSigKap]

Wait...there is yet another new schedule for recruitment. Thursday is a no go and now recruitment begins on Friday. I am glad they are putting safety first. They will be running 23 events so the number of PNMs will be smaller at each event. Each party will be 45 minutes and PNMs will have some open slots to rest.


FRIDAY
9:00 - 9:45 /
10:05 - 10:50 /
11:10 - 11:55 / Drink Round
12:15 - 1:00 /
BREAK 1:00 - 3:10 /
3:10 - 3:55 /
4:15 - 5:00 /
5:20 - 6:05 / Drink Round
6:25 - 7:10

SATURDAY
9:00 - 9:45 /
10:05 - 10:50 /
11:10 - 11:55 / Drink Round
12:15 - 1:00 /
BREAK 1:00 - 3:10 /
3:10 - 3:55 /
4:15 - 5:00 /
5:20 - 6:05 / Drink Round
6:25 - 7:10

SUNDAY
9:00 - 9:45 /
10:05 - 10:50 / Drink Round
11:10 - 11:55 /
12:15 - 1:00 /
BREAK 1:00 - 3:10 /
3:10 - 3:55 /
4:15 - 5:00 / Drink Round
5:20 - 6:05 /
6:25 - 7:10 / Drink Round

It also looks like one round is being eliminated and PNMs will go 21-12-3. I hope I am getting correct information.