These chicks need their heads examined!!

[33girl]

Originally posted by HotDamGam


Question: What if MTV was filming the Real World in the citiy of one of its cast members who is greek...would that person have to deaffiliate or something, or could they still be involved in their chapter while filming?

They could still be involved...MTV would not be allowed to show chapter meetings or chapter activities. The only reason I can think of that they would have to go temporarily inactive for the semester is if the chapter had very strict mandatory live-in rules. I think most of the RW'ers end up taking a semester off school, even if they are in the same city, because the jobs they are given are usually quite time-consuming. In earlier RW's it wasn't this way (for example, Aaron was a LXA and finishing his last semester of school).

[DeltAlum]

Apples and Oranges here, folks.

Real World and Road Rules are not about Greek Life. They don't videotape chapter meetings and rush, etc. That's not what they're about.

This new program intends to do all of those things, and the content will be totally Greek oriented.

The producer has already alluded to hazing and drinking when talking about the concept. Do you really (honestly) think they aren't going into the project with pre conceived ideas?

Sisterhood, philanthrophy and homecoming floats aren't going to foster ratings. Scandal is.

There is a huge difference between someone on a show who happens to be a Greek, and doing a program about alleged Greek Life.

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Apples and Oranges here, folks.

Real World and Road Rules are not about Greek Life. They don't videotape chapter meetings and rush, etc. That's not what they're about.

This new program intends to do all of those things, and the content will be totally Greek oriented.

The producer has already alluded to hazing and drinking when talking about the concept. Do you really (honestly) think they aren't going into the project with pre conceived ideas?

Sisterhood, philanthrophy and homecoming floats aren't going to foster ratings. Scandal is.

There is a huge difference between someone on a show who happens to be a Greek, and doing a program about alleged Greek Life.

Thanks for getting my point across, DeltAlum... You said it much better than I could.

[Glitter650]

I must say that we as members of nationals do need to get off our high horse a bit... although we generally do have more rules and people making us follow those rules... most locals still wouldn't want their chapter to get "bad press". They are greek too.. I don't think they want to make themselves look stupid on television.

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by Glitter650
I must say that we as members of nationals do need to get off our high horse a bit... although we generally do have more rules and people making us follow those rules... most locals still wouldn't want their chapter to get "bad press". They are greek too.. I don't think they want to make themselves look stupid on television.

Glitter,

I don't think we're on a "high horse" when we say that locals and nationals are different from each other. They are -- and the general public is not always aware of the difference. As a result, we're all painted with the same brush whenever something negative about Greek life is publicly aired on TV, in the newspapers, or in a magazine.

No one wants to make themselves look stupid on TV, and I don't think that anyone on GC is trying to imply that they do. The difference is that national sororities aren't allowed to put themselves in a situation to look stupid in the media. Locals, however, don't have a national governing body to look over the shoulder and say, "Hey, maybe going on MTV isn't the best PR idea for the group. Let's stay away from this." And that's how things get out of hand sometimes.

However, like I've said in the past, no organization is perfect. There will always be a few bad apples in the bunch, and that applies for nationals and locals equally. It's just sad that we all have to suffer for the irresponsible actions of a few.

[LexiKD]

I really wish that a national organization would do something like this to show that we are upstanding groups in the communities that they are interested in. Why can we not show off the fact that we have good groups that try to do the right thing with the guidelines set out for us?

Getting off our high horses? Let's face it, the general public do not know, care to know, or want to know the difference b/w national and local. When they follow this group around and finally get it on TV, it is a Day in the Life of a Sorority, not a local sorority and when you reflect on 26 groups with at least 100,000 members in each group it does make us concerned.

We have the right to voice that and in reality it will and has hurt the Greek Systems around the country. Like 20/20 last year, typical Greek Story...starts off with the UNC fire, and then two Greek Deaths and then hazing. Other then UNC, the other stories were of locals and there was no reference made to that fact.

I understand the differences and agree that locals are just as much as a part of the system, but they are a smaller part(number wise) and this type of show will be the smaller part, that is VERY different reflecting on the large part. We face similiar issues, but have much different structures.

When I was a Rho Chi and on PH, I don't know how many parents asked about the 20/20 show and wanted to see paperwork and such regarding rules...

It is unfair that this show will do damage, but what can be done now?

[theta sig agd]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Eirene_DGP
[B]

Originally posted by AGDLynn

Are they a local "Greek" organization? That would explain how they are getting away with it... But will MTV show disclaimers that they are a local group and not under the auspices (did I spell that right?) of a national headquarters? Yeah, right!.......
Many of the viewers may not see a distinction between what locals can get away with and NPC/NIC Greeks can't/shouldn't.



Ok, I am kind of upset by your comment about locals would do this and nationals would not. You are implying that locals would want to get on national television and bad mouth their organization/Greek life in general, but yet nationals would not do the same. Just for your information, and anyone else who has posted negative comments about locals/up and coming nationals, I love my organization just as much as you love yours and "Most" of us would NOT put down our orgs. on national television. Everytime there is something in the news about "NATIONALS" hazing and openly discriminating, you don't see us locals saying, "Yeah make sure you differentiate that they are nationals and the locals had nothing to do with it." Last semester when ALL of the NPHC at our school was put on probation b/c of hazing you didn't catch the locals talking about, "Yeah those nationals are at it again."

I think you are taking this alittle too personal. I dont think anyone was meaning to say anything bad about locals. I respect locals emensly(sorry about the typos!!) I mean we all started that way right!

It is a known fact that NPC has rules on these issues and would never allow this to be done with one of there groups, or the orgs HQ would never allow it. Also, generally speaking, locals are more lenient (again a typo) on this.

I dont think SAEPi really understands what it is doing or the risks involved. The media has a way of twisting things to fit there agenda. If you go to the website about this it specifically says they know hazing occurs and they whant a sororities view. They are looking for something !!! NOT GOOD!!!

[theta sig agd]

Originally posted by shultzz


I think most greeks that are in national GLOs are snobs and have elitest attitudes when comparing themselves to locals.

You just took a steep nose dive on respect!!!! I usually respect locals and am willing to help but this type of BS is what creates tension between locals and Nats.

GROW UP!!! Maybe then you will get the respect you deserve. I am sick of hearing all these groups whinning every time someone here mentions a local. Instead of dogging the groups that are pointing out differences maybe you could take a look at your org and the Nat orgs and find out why? Most of the things pointed out are NOT meant to be put downs!

Let us all go to the thread on greek love and learn some lessons!!!

[counting]

Will a Greek or Non-Greek be producing or editing the show??

[chscrew144]

Well while I;m not a fan of pretty much any reality TV show or of much of MTV I have to say that for example, Tuff Enuff (whatever) is a good tv show when it shows actual wrestling stuff whether it be amateur (IE the real wrestling) or wwf because I'm a former hs wrestler and present university wreslter. They were very responsible the first season and everything i saw was well done and they taught the kids real moves (well, some real moves) and it was interesting. It was like watching athletes go thru a series of cuts for a team but this year they are playing up one of the girls cheating on her bf.

I'm hoping that if they do do a reality show on this soror that they do the same thing and they can have it entertaining while being responsible about it and not dramatizing it. If they can make people understand that fraternities are no longer beer swilling jocks (be a student athlete not a dumb jock) living together and soror girls aren't immaturish kids, it may be good for the GLO community. However, knowing the reality of stuff they will sensationilize as mich as they can for the sake of ratings. Do you guys think they'll do one on a fraternity next year?

Also in closing i would like to say that that series Real World where they live together, they may as well have filmed it in a dorm because it is pretty much the same thing. I hope they are responsible if they do this and don;t try to use the people for their own ends but treat them and view them as adults and while chapters differ even within the same GLO (different people etc) and local GLOs differ from national glos, it can only be a good thing if positive results come out of this which is what i hope will happen.

[dzsaigirl]

People will expect Girls Gone Wild. If that's not what they get, they won't watch...hmmmm...I wonder what they'll show. Meetings? Philanthropies? Treasurer poring over the books to manage sorority money? Hell no. They are going to show the parties, girls being catty, etc. Does that make them different from any other random college girl...no, unless you count the fact that they are doing that for their benefit at OUR expense.

[chscrew144]

Originally posted by dzsaigirl
People will expect Girls Gone Wild. If that's not what they get, they won't watch...hmmmm...I wonder what they'll show. Meetings? Philanthropies? Treasurer poring over the books to manage sorority money? Hell no. They are going to show the parties, girls being catty, etc. Does that make them different from any other random college girl...no, unless you count the fact that they are doing that for their benefit at OUR expense.

Well, all i;m saying is i hope they do it responsibly and the girls act responsibly and dont let them make it out to be like a GGW thing.

[AlphaGamMI]

"For the production, MTV has rented, redecorated, lit and wired a four-bedroom home at the end of a quiet north Davis cul-de-sac, where six of the 14 Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi pledges are living.

So far, MTV has done its best to keep secret the location of the pledge house, which is filled with Ikea furniture and camera crews and has a heated pool and Jacuzzi spa out back."



I think that that is about how concerned MTV is with keeping this whole thing real. We had a beautiful house, but how many of us really lived in places like this in college. Should be great for ratings though. I would love to see the releases that had to be signed for this whole thing. I really do wish these girls the best. I'll be curious to watch the "reunion" special that they always seem to do at the end of these things to see if they regret their decision.


Julie

[chscrew144]

Anyone think they may go after a fratnerity chapter, say the beta one in Lincoln, if this is successful and try and do a series involving fraternity guys?

[GreekLetterGirl]

Does anyone know when this would air, and come one doesn't every sorority house/suite have a hot tub