BGLO and GLO

[SilverTurtle]

mdstudent... I liked everything you said except:

Originally posted by mdstudent:
When you become
a member of a GLO it is pretty much for your college years. You may see some frat brothers here and there but there really isn't any active participation after graduation. The exact opposite is
true of BGLO's.

While each GLO is different, there are numerous organizations that have graduate/alumni chapters. In fact, my GLO has more active alumni chapters than collegiate chapters.


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SilverTurtle

Phi Beta Fraternity: National Professional Association for the Creative & Performing Arts

Sorry, sometimes I run off on tangents

[showstopper_1908]

Originally posted by UMgirl:

So how about this, one way of unifying all the orgs. would be to have an educational program on them, that gives background and etc. that all greeks could attend? At my school i hear nonsense coming from both orgs. about what they have heard and thought about he other. This would prevent that.

That's a very good idea UMgirl.

[LeslieAGD]

Tonya, I luv ya sweetie! Are you still going to be around in the fall? I want to come out and see you!

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by mccoyred:
There have been discussion ad nauseum addressing the very same question. Please read the old threads with comments from GLO members, BGLO members and GDIs.

If after reading some of them, you have a question that was not answered, feel free to bring it to the group. Since there are several threads on this topic, I can't imagine that any question pertaining to this topic HAS NOT been answered.

You can type in 'BGLO' and all the threads should come up. Try searching both Greek Life and Risk Management forums.

Happy Hunting!!

AXO Alum going on record to say that once again, mccoyred is right on target!!

Also....very funny in my opinion that I would even remember this --- but you old folks (ie, the "senior" members who distress the young'uns so much) may remember too --- just last year during the 4th of July picnic my neighbor threw for us, I came in to check my email. Lo and behold there was an email telling me to check out the racism thread going on in GC land ---- y'all remember that one? It was like hell on earth for the GC'ers that were participating -- and here we are...one year later -- still trying to beat that dead horse!! --- OOPS I didn't mean to add that in! [heeheehee]

Also - for posterity's sake -- I just want to remind everyone that colors are black and white --- cultural/ethnicity would be African-American and Caucasian. So if you use one (ie, a color) then also use color to describe the other......if you use cultural/ethnic for one, then use it for the other also. See what fun stuff you can learn in a graduate research course??

[12dn94dst]

AXO_Alum, once again you have a point. I TRIED to turn this thread around by getting people to post possible RESOLUTIONS to this issue, but alas, only 4 have answered my question, THREE of whom are on the NPHC side of things. **sigh** I'd hate to draw a conclusion based on these meager showings, but the silence is deafening. Apparently those complaining about the "anti-social" behavior of NPHC greeks are not upset enough about it to express as sincere interest in changing the situation as they are in complaining about it. Maybe they honestly feel "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" yet feel it would be the PC thing to do to raise the issue. You know what the sad thing is, we'll be back down this same road in a matter of WEEKS talking about the same thing because no one wanted to make a change now. Just more proof of the saying "those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

And I'm gone!



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Kelli
#12 Delta Nu (Savannah State University) Wtr. 1994
MAL, Southern Region

An equal opportunity grumpy person.

[SweetestDiva]

Originally posted by UMgirl:
I have read, thought and now im posting. So here's my little worthless 2 cent.

Leslie-- I love you, one of my fave AGD's even out of my own chapter. Just wanted you to know that

Ok, even though BGLO's and Predominately White, Social, whatever we all individually call them GLO's are run differently and etc,we all have one thing in common. We were started to somehow help and better society. To bring people together. So isnt it better that we EDUCATE, instead of retaliating at post we dont agree with on this board. If someone has the worng info, there is a better way of doing it, then rolling eyes or whatever. No offense to anyone, but you have to admitt that it gets annoying after awhile. Im not saying no one can use them, but lets be real now. And lets stop stereotyping each org, we get enough of that from non-greeks as it is. There are sorority sluts and beer guzzling fraternity boys in all the orgs. whether it be BGLO, GLO, HAGLO, AAGLO, etc.Ill take you to my campus and prove it. I happen to be a beer guzzling sorority girl (who happens to be Black in a NPC), and Im damn proud. However, i do handle myself in a intelligent manner.
So how about this, one way of unifying all the orgs. would be to have an educational program on them, that gives background and etc. that all greeks could attend? At my school i hear nonsense coming from both orgs. about what they have heard and thought about he other. This would prevent that.

I agree that this is a valid suggestion. However, it has been made on thread after thread after thread! I don't see the point in a million threads on the same topic. My one eyeroll about a BEAUTY PAGEANT has started this whole "teach, not roll eyes" mantra... give me a break! If substantial education is taking place, I must have missed it. I don't see why this issue has to be rehashed over and over again... like I said, the same responses can be found in about a million other threads.

[Sig624EI]

Originally posted by SweetestDiva:
I agree that this is a valid suggestion. However, it has been made on thread after thread after thread! I don't see the point in a million threads on the same topic. My one eyeroll about a BEAUTY PAGEANT has started this whole "teach, not roll eyes" mantra... give me a break! If substantial education is taking place, I must have missed it. I don't see why this issue has to be rehashed over and over again... like I said, the same responses can be found in about a million other threads.

If you don't see this issue has to be rehashed, then why do you post responses again and again in it? I learned a lot about how other orgs work by reading these threads, and it is a possibility that something new may come up. If you don't like something you have every right to post your opinion on it, but please move on and allow others to express their opinions too, even if they are "old hat" to you.
Last I checked no one was the ultimate authority on everything, including greek life.

peace out.

[mdstudent]

Originally posted by LeslieAGD:
mdstudent: now that was a well written and effective post! however, I would rather you had said that BGLOs are very active after graduation and not stated that other GLOs are not. I can't speak for any other GLO, but AGD has many alumnae and junior circle chapters to keep members active and "in the loop" after graduation.

MeezDiscreet: yes, the eye rolling really does bother some of us, as it is uncalled for. We here on GreekChat appriciate when non-Greeks come on and add to our "environment," but not when they simply stir up trouble and piss off other members. so please respect this forum and grow up!

You are correct. I should not have said NPC members are not as active after graduation as NPHC members. The truth is I really don't know. I guess I made that statement because I pretty much only see NPHC members in my area (D.C., Maryland, Virginia). I am sure there are many NPC members who are active after graduation.

[SweetestDiva]

Originally posted by Sig624EI:

If you don't see this issue has to be rehashed, then why do you post responses again and again in it? I learned a lot about how other orgs work by reading these threads, and it is a possibility that something new may come up. If you don't like something you have every right to post your opinion on it, but please move on and allow others to express their opinions too, even if they are "old hat" to you.
Last I checked no one was the ultimate authority on everything, including greek life.

peace out.

I must have missed the part where I said I was an ultimate authority on anything. My response was to say a search may be helpful to the poster who originated this thread, as this subject has been discussed over and over and over and over and over and over.... get the point???

[Sig624EI]

Yes MA'AM! I am sorry! I mean no ill will! I promise to carefully write each post from now on so it is not offensive to anyone, just like everyone else here does.

I never said you were the ultimate authority, I am implying no one is, and no one will have all the answers, but everyone has something to contribute if you give them time. And that I think everytime the topic is brought up something new can be gleaned.


[This message has been edited by Sig624EI (edited July 03, 2001).]

[PM_Mama00]

hmm

Originally posted by SweetestDiva:
I must have missed the part where I said I was an ultimate authority on anything. My response was to say a search may be helpful to the poster who originated this thread, as this subject has been discussed over and over and over and over and over and over.... get the point???

U know what? I'm really sick of hearing about how I shouldve done a search. Well I"M SORRY that I didn't feel like it. Those posts are prolly outdated so I decided to start another one. And I value other peoples opinions, but if it bothers u SOOOO much that there are other threads, then dont read this one! And dont post! What is so hard about that? Sorry to be so...well...bishy, but its really starting to bother me that so many people are putting me down just for a simple question that i asked.

[showstopper_1908]

Ok so back to the topic of the post...does anyone else have any positive opinions on why the NPHC organizations exist or any opinions on why you think they shouldn't exist?

[ZChi4Life]

I think the NPHC Greeks should exist b/c they give African-American men and women the opportunity to bond in sister/brotherhood while uplifting THEIR community. I think that's wonderful. I also think that other ethnic specific Greeks should exist for the same reason. I don't understand why this is such a BIG deal or a BIG problem w/ some folks. Why can't African-Ams or Latino/as or Asians belong in a fraternity/sorority that uplifts THEIR communities? Why is that wrong?

I also don't see it as segregation b/c these groups are focusing their time and energy on helping THEIR communities. Therefore, of course these orgs are going to be pre-dominantly one ethnicity. That's a given! But they do not exclude others who want to also focus their energy on helping that particular ethnicity's community. So I don't see a problem w/ the NPHC or other ethnic greeks. I don't know...it all makes sense to me!
peace

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00:
hmm U know what? I'm really sick of hearing about how I shouldve done a search. Well I"M SORRY that I didn't feel like it. Those posts are prolly outdated so I decided to start another one. And I value other peoples opinions, but if it bothers u SOOOO much that there are other threads, then dont read this one! And dont post! What is so hard about that? Sorry to be so...well...bishy, but its really starting to bother me that so many people are putting me down just for a simple question that i asked.

You didn't "feel" like it?? -- well heck, sometimes I don't "feel" like coming into work....sometimes I "feel" like the things I have to do here is outdated....I "feel" like no one knows what they are doing.

But guess what -- I DO IT ANYWAY because I don't want to reinvent the wheel -- especially when that wheel fits the 1979 celery green Pinto --- no matter what you do to it....it "ain't" gettin' you nowhere!

Kelli - I meant to comment on your posts since I could see (because I "felt" like seeing...heeheehee) that you were trying to make the author of this post THINK rather than just post stereotypes.

The BGLO's on my campus didn't do much with the WGLO's (not my terms people) -- but hell -- the WGLO'S didn't do much with the BGLO's either. Did that mean that neither of us were doing good things for the community? NOPE - it just meant that we did our own thing and made our own way --- thankfully I have heard that we are doing more together for the campus and community. You want to see something happen, then go make it happen -- don't sit around and moan about it if you aren't going to work for it.