Who is your most frequent competitor?

[oldu]

I was helping a Theta friend put together some statistics for a project she is working on and we came up with a list of Kappa Alpha Theta's most frequent competitors (or the number of times Theta meets each other sorority on a campus). I thought you might find it interesting:

Kappa Kappa Gamma, 90
Delta Gamma, 85
Pi Beta Phi, 80
Delta Delta Delta, 73
Alpha Chi Omega, 68
Alpha Phi, 61
Chi Omega, 61
Gamma Phi Beta,50
Kappa Delta, 49
Alpha Delta Pi, 43
Zeta Tau Alpha, 31
Delta Zeta, 29
Alpha Omicron Pi, 28
Alpha Gamma Delta, 27
Sigma Kappa, 26
Phi Mu, 24
Alpha Epsilon Phi, 21
Sigma Delta Tau, 21
Alpha Xi Delta, 18
Phi Sigma Sigma, 5
Delta Phi Epsilon, 4
Alpha Sigma Alpha, 3
Sigma Sigma Sigma, 3
Alpha Sigma Tau, 1
Theta Phi Alpha, 1

Where some of the sororities ended up surprised us both. Just for kicks we did a list for Alpha Xi Delta (Theta's traditional rival with the least common meetings) to see how it looked:

Delta Zeta, 40
Zeta Tau Alpha, 39
Chi Omega, 33
Alpha Phi, 30
Alpha Chi Omega, 28
Delta Gamma, 25
Phi Mu, 25
Pi Beta Phi, 25
Alpha Gamma Delta, 24
Alpha Delta Pi, 23
Alpha Omicron Pi, 23
Delta Delta Delta, 22
Sigma Kappa, 22
Gamma Phi Beta, 21
Kappa Delta, 21
Kappa Kappa Gamma, 21
Kappa Alpha Theta, 18
Sigma Sigma Sigma, 18
Phi Sigma Sigma, 15
Alpha Epsilon Phi, 12
Alpha Sigma Tau, 12
Delta Phi Epsilon, 12
Sigma Delta Tau, 11
Alpha Sigma Alpha, 6
Theta Phi Alpha, 6

Interesting how different the two lists look. Alpha Xi Delta's recent emphasis has been at smaller Greek systems and their most frequent competitors are also more predominately at smaller systems.

The above information proves or implies nothing--I just thought it would fascinating for others to see, You may wish to make a list for your own group.

[skylark]

It actually took me a second to realize what it was that you meant by competitor because I honestly have been so panhellenically-minded for so long I stopped thinking about fellow sororities on campus as "competitors."

Does the word strike any others as odd? I would have been more apt to pick "neighbor" or "cohort" or something.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by skylark

It actually took me a second to realize what it was that you meant by competitor because I honestly have been so panhellenically-minded for so long I stopped thinking about fellow sororities on campus as "competitors."

Does the word strike any others as odd? I would have been more apt to pick "neighbor" or "cohort" or something.

Yeah, but rivals kind of made sense.

I'd prefer a more cooperative term too.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by skylark

Does the word strike any others as odd?

I still have no idea what he's talking about.

[skylark]

Yeah, I like rivals better than competitor for some reason. It seems easier to be friends with a rival than a competitor.

Leslie Anne: I think "competitor" is supposed to mean when XYZ is on a campus with ABC, then they are competing with eachother on that campus. Therefore, his chart shows where a GLO most frequently meets other GLOs. For instance, KAT is on 90 campuses with KKG.

[Leslie Anne]

oooooooh! Okay, thanks for explaining that.


ETA: Too much work for a Saturday. I think I'll wait until the others are done and just steal the numbers.

So far Kappa Delta has...


Alpha Delta Pi - 57
Kappa Alpha Theta - 49
Alpha Xi Delta - 21

[PhrozenGod01]

I can't speak for other bruhs, but I'd have to say our biggest competitors are ourselves.

[skylark]

^ Your post reminds me of the cheese people throw out in job interviews when they want to look like a desirable candidate.

Example:

Interviewer: What is your greatest weakness.

Interviewee: Sometimes I try to please others TOO much. I also work too hard.

or

Interviewer: Name three words that describe you.

Interviewee: Winner. Awesome. Fratty. (okay maybe not that last one)

[KSUViolet06]

I see what you're doing, but that is WAY too much work to figure out. I'd have to igure out which sororities are at every school that we are at. That's at least 110 chapters. One day if I'm super bored, I'll try. If anyone else would like to they are more than welcome.

[banditone]

are you talking about fist fights/?

[banditone]

WOOT! GO SIGMA NU - alphaxidelta - and THETA!

damn, 2 sororities and just EN. I likes...!

[bluefish81]

That's quite the undertaking. I'd say that for the sorority side, if you were interested and had the time, using the thead that IrishPipes started for 2007-2008 Recruitment would probably be a good idea. It has every chapter ever listed (or probably as good as you'll find).

[33girl]

We've already had this thread. Search the word "overlap."

The word "competitors" has a negative connotation and shouldn't be used in this context.

[skylark]

I think this is the one: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...hlight=overlap

ETA: I read through the thread, and except for this post I don't think very many orgs were analyzed:

Campuses with Alpha Xi Delta Chapters also have....

37.3% Delta Zeta
34.5% Chi Omega
32.7% Zeta Tau Alpha
27.3% Alpha Chi Omega
26.4% Pi Beta Phi
24.5% Alpha Gamma Delta, Alpha Phi, Delta Gamma
23.6% Alpha Omicron Pi, Phi Mu
20.9% Alpha Delta Pi, Kappa Delta, Sigma Kappa
19.1% Delta Delta Delta, Gamma Phi Beta, Kappa Kappa Gamma
17.3% Kappa Alpha Theta
15.5% Sigma Sigma Sigma
12.7& Phi Sigma Sigma
10.9% Alpha Epsilon Phi
5.5% Alpha Sigma Tau
4.5% Delta Phi Epsilon, Theta Phi Alpha
3.6% Alpha Sigma Alpha
0.1% Sigma Delta Tau

It looks like there used to be a comprehensive website with the data (but the link is different now and many people on GC thought the numbers were inaccurate anyway).

Maybe some mod out there could combine both threads for us? I like the term "overlap" more than "competitor" personally.

[KappaKittyCat]

I know that we try not to use terms like "competitor" around here, but it's not entirely an inaccurate statement. I can say that at my school, we had both Kappa and Theta and I know from our Recruitment advisor that during my later years on campus, we and Theta tended to compete for the same women, while those who went for DG (the third sorority on campus) were more likely not to be Greek if they couldn't have their first choice.

However, oldu's stats seem more to be getting at the overlap between different organizations simply existing on the same campus and not at competition, as he hasn't posted any info regarding bid list overlap, etc.