Cindy McCain

Nanners52674 · #1 10-13-2008, 07:45 PM

I haven't heard her mentioned much in the current election threads, mostly because she hasn't done anything noteworthy. Until last week "At a rally in Bethlehem, Pa. last week, Cindy McCain spoke about having two sons serving on active duty: "I'm proud of my sons, but let me tell you, the day that Senator Obama cast a vote not to fund my son when he was serving sent a cold chill through my body. I would suggest that Senator Obama change shoes with me for just one day, and see what it means."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-..._b_134068.html

The article it self focuses more on the overall strain of the war on current military families and is one of the few i have read that in my opinion gives an accurate portrayal of the feelings of many military families.

As for Cindy's comment i think it was crass and offensive not to mention her husband also voted no for a different version of the same bill.

I'd love to see Cindy change shoes with military spouse for a day, instead of Obama being her. In fact I think a lot of politicians could benefit from a day in the shoes of a military spouse.

UGAalum94 · #2 10-13-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanners52674

I haven't heard her mentioned much in the current election threads, mostly because she hasn't done anything noteworthy. Until last week "At a rally in Bethlehem, Pa. last week, Cindy McCain spoke about having two sons serving on active duty: "I'm proud of my sons, but let me tell you, the day that Senator Obama cast a vote not to fund my son when he was serving sent a cold chill through my body. I would suggest that Senator Obama change shoes with me for just one day, and see what it means."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-..._b_134068.html

The article it self focuses more on the overall strain of the war on current military families and is one of the few i have read that in my opinion gives an accurate portrayal of the feelings of many military families.

As for Cindy's comment i think it was crass and offensive not to mention her husband also voted no for a different version of the same bill.

I'd love to see Cindy change shoes with military spouse for a day, instead of Obama being her. In fact I think a lot of politicians could benefit from a day in the shoes of a military spouse.

You think there's a significant difference emotionally between being a military spouse and a military parent?

Nanners52674 · #3 10-13-2008, 07:54 PM

No i think there is a significant difference between being an incredibly wealthy military parent and a military spouse whose just trying to scrape by while her spouse is gone for months at a time, and she's home working raising the kids and worrying about her spouse.

My feeling is that the shoes of Cindy McCain have a bit more padding than those worn by an average military spouse, parent, sibling, child.

DaemonSeid · #4 10-13-2008, 08:00 PM

dang...did you miss Cindy saying that Obama is running one of the dirtiest campaigns in history???

It was in that same peice of news about Obama not funding the military bill

UGAalum94 · #5 10-13-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanners52674

No i think there is a significant difference between being an incredibly wealthy military parent and a military spouse whose just trying to scrape by while her spouse is gone for months at a time, and she's home working raising the kids and worrying about her spouse.

My feeling is that the shoes of Cindy McCain have a bit more padding than those worn by an average military spouse, parent, sibling, child.

Well, you could say the same thing about anyone compared to Cindy, couldn't you?

Nanners52674 · #6 10-13-2008, 08:06 PM

Yea you could. But Cindy herself is the one who suggested Obama does not know what a day in her life as a military parent is like. All im saying as someone who was the gf of a military member for almost 3 years, I would like to see her walk in my shoes or the shoes of many other military family members I know before she challenges Obama to walk in her's. I'd take Cindy's shoes over the shoes I wore when i dated my ex any day.

pinksirfidel · #7 10-13-2008, 08:56 PM

I was surpsrised to hear what Cindy McCain said at that rally.

I guess she's officially "fair game."

UGAalum94 · #8 10-13-2008, 08:58 PM

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I was surpsrised to hear what Cindy McCain said at that rally.

I guess she's officially "fair game."

Did you see the New Yorker piece? She's been fair game for a while now.

agzg · #9 10-13-2008, 09:09 PM

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Well, you could say the same thing about anyone compared to Cindy, couldn't you?

I think the point that's trying to be made is that many military families (as in, spouses and children of enlistedmen) are often on food stamps and other forms of assistance because sometimes they're just not paid enough, even with signing bonuses. Not to mention the stress of "why can't we see daddy?" questions while your spouse is on tour.

We learned about some of those problems when I was studying for my master's degree - I guess that if you're single you can get by pretty well but when you're married, moving around all the time (so your spouse has trouble finding work) and you've got a couple of kids, money gets EXTREMELY tight.

CrackerBarrel · #10 10-13-2008, 09:15 PM

I think it's dumb to keep up the criticism for that vote, but the counterpoint brought up on Huff Post and on this thread is equally dumb. "But Cindy McCain is rich!" is not in any way shape or form a logical response to the statement that Obama doesn't know what it's like to have a loved one deployed in the military. They're both true statements but they don't rebut each other in any way. Pointing out that Cindy is rich is just a red herring in responding to something she said which is true.

agzg · #11 10-13-2008, 09:21 PM

I think it's that it's harder to be a spouse than a mom?

I don't see the logic, either, both are true (that it's hard to be a parent and it's hard to be a wife).

However, I can see where the counterpoint is headed - I just don't think it's headed to the heart of the argument.

Nanners52674 · #12 10-13-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

I think the point that's trying to be made is that many military families (as in, spouses and children of enlistedmen) are often on food stamps and other forms of assistance because sometimes they're just not paid enough, even with signing bonuses. Not to mention the stress of "why can't we see daddy?" questions while your spouse is on tour.

That was exactly my point. Yes I'm voting for Obama, But my anger at the comment made by Cindy McCain would be the same if it was made by Michelle Obama.

CrackerBarrel · #13 10-13-2008, 09:59 PM

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're angry about. It's only ok for military spouses to say that it's a shame politicians don't know what it feels like to be in their positions? So yes being a spouse is different than being a mother, but going "What is Cindy talking about, it's just her son, not her husband. Plus she's rich!" is a pretty illogical reaction in my mind.

Nanners52674 · #14 10-13-2008, 10:14 PM

It has nothing to do with it being Cindy's son over her husband or brother or any other family member. It comes from her making the statement that Obama has no clue what its like to live her life as a military mom. (Which is true) But my feeling is that Cindy's experience is drastically different from that of the average military family member.

I feel that before she tells a civilian (political candidate or not) to walk in her shoes, she should walk in the shoes of your average military family member. Maybe if she did that she would see why many of them support a plan for Iraq that has a timeline involved in it. (that plan happens to be Obama's)

pinksirfidel · #15 10-13-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Did you see the New Yorker piece? She's been fair game for a while now.

No... can you give me a link UGAalum94?