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01-03-2008, 06:32 PM
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Iowa Caucus Tonight
Anyone care? Anyone have any predictions?
I have no idea about the Dems... I think it will be a dead heat between the three front runners
For the Repubs:
Romney
Huckabee
Paul
Giuliani
Thompson
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01-03-2008, 06:36 PM
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I think the super-delegates will put Clinton over the top. And my guess is also that Romney might come out on top for the GOP.
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01-03-2008, 06:45 PM
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I hope Edwards comes out of it for the Dems but it could be any of the big 3.
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01-03-2008, 06:46 PM
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Is it sad that I already tune out all of the election coverage? And we still have eleven months to go!
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01-03-2008, 06:55 PM
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I am in Iowa and always get excited during Caucus season in our little but mighty state!
I am really ready for the caucuses to be over this year.
I am ready for the constant automated phone calls to stop, the deluge of literature in the mail to cease, and the unending line of door knocking canvassers to GO AWAY!
Seriously folks...this week we have had about 20 phone calls, each day has about 6-10 pieces of mail (printed and "personal" endorsement letters from friends), and an average of 3 canvassers a day!!!
Seriously,
YES, I will caucus.
YES, I am a democrat and will be at my caucus.
YES, I KNOW where it is.
NO, I don't need a ride.
NO, I don't need a babysitter BUT I am bringing my 14 year old "baby" with to see this in action (and he is bringing his new camcorder to record it all)
NO, I don't know who I am caucusing for.
NO, I do not want to hear about how your candidate is the best.
I will feel so forgotten tomorrow  . BUT, Right now I am the most popular voter on the planet...UNDECIDED!
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01-03-2008, 07:10 PM
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^^ WOW. I do not envy you.
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01-03-2008, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sageofages
I am in Iowa and always get excited during Caucus season in our little but mighty state!
I am really ready for the caucuses to be over this year.
I am ready for the constant automated phone calls to stop, the deluge of literature in the mail to cease, and the unending line of door knocking canvassers to GO AWAY!
Seriously folks...this week we have had about 20 phone calls, each day has about 6-10 pieces of mail (printed and "personal" endorsement letters from friends), and an average of 3 canvassers a day!!!
Seriously,
YES, I will caucus.
YES, I am a democrat and will be at my caucus.
YES, I KNOW where it is.
NO, I don't need a ride.
NO, I don't need a babysitter BUT I am bringing my 14 year old "baby" with to see this in action (and he is bringing his new camcorder to record it all)
NO, I don't know who I am caucusing for.
NO, I do not want to hear about how your candidate is the best.
I will feel so forgotten tomorrow  . BUT, Right now I am the most popular voter on the planet...UNDECIDED!
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I've never met someone who was undecided when leaving for a poll, or caucus, where s/he will cast a ballot.
Can I ask you what will finally determine who you caucus for? Do you understand the issues and where each candidate stands on them (to me, the Dems seem so close on all them I haven't taken the time to sort them out). I can't envision heading out to vote/caucus without knowing - I'm one of those who spends days weighing issues even on bond votes - and I'm really curious what factors will go in to your decision.
Of course, it will be over and done before you get a chance to respond, given it's already nearly 7 on the east coast.
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01-03-2008, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DGTess
I've never met someone who was undecided when leaving for a poll, or caucus, where s/he will cast a ballot.
Can I ask you what will finally determine who you caucus for? Do you understand the issues and where each candidate stands on them (to me, the Dems seem so close on all them I haven't taken the time to sort them out). I can't envision heading out to vote/caucus without knowing - I'm one of those who spends days weighing issues even on bond votes - and I'm really curious what factors will go in to your decision.
Of course, it will be over and done before you get a chance to respond, given it's already nearly 7 on the east coast.
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Heading out now...I am torn...yes I have read up on all the issues!
I will let you all know when I get back!
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01-03-2008, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by eli_the_chopper
Anyone care? Anyone have any predictions?
I have no idea about the Dems... I think it will be a dead heat between the three front runners
For the Repubs:
Romney
Huckabee
Paul
Giuliani
Thompson
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I don't think Paul will finish that high, and I hope that Thompson finishes third but of course I have no real idea.
I can remember posting with Shinerbock, I think it was, about how things would shake out, and I wasn't yet a Thompson fan, but I am now.
It's kind of odd when I talk to people about Fred, and I acknowledge that it's pretty narrow section of the electorate that I talk to about politics in RL, that most people I know who are likely to vote for a Republican like what Thompson seems to believe in but feel hesitant to vote for him because he's not already popular enough. This thinking seems bizarre to me at the start of primary season. I can understand feeling that way once you know he's lost a lot of delegates already, but not now when it's theoretically wide open.
I'm not even talking about making donations to his campaign; I just mean when I talk to people about who they might vote for and why.
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01-03-2008, 08:37 PM
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ummm, football anybody?
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01-03-2008, 08:43 PM
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ummm, football anybody?
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LOL.
Heeeyyyyy, is THIS what happened in Ohio in '04 that gave us 4 more years of Chen...er, Bush?!? Nice. 
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01-03-2008, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by UGAalum94
I don't think Paul will finish that high, and I hope that Thompson finishes third but of course I have no real idea.
I can remember posting with Shinerbock, I think it was, about how things would shake out, and I wasn't yet a Thompson fan, but I am now.
It's kind of odd when I talk to people about Fred, and I acknowledge that it's pretty narrow section of the electorate that I talk to about politics in RL, that most people I know who are likely to vote for a Republican like what Thompson seems to believe in but feel hesitant to vote for him because he's not already popular enough. This thinking seems bizarre to me at the start of primary season. I can understand feeling that way once you know he's lost a lot of delegates already, but not now when it's theoretically wide open.
I'm not even talking about making donations to his campaign; I just mean when I talk to people about who they might vote for and why.
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I have to admit I like what Thompson has to say, but I've yet to see any action behind it. I feel he's an actor spouting lines the audience wants to hear. Wait .... oh.
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01-03-2008, 09:03 PM
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LOL.
Heeeyyyyy, is THIS what happened in Ohio in '04 that gave us 4 more years of Chen...er, Bush?!? Nice.  
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I didn't sign his birthday card!
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01-03-2008, 09:07 PM
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I have to admit I like what Thompson has to say, but I've yet to see any action behind it. I feel he's an actor spouting lines the audience wants to hear. Wait .... oh.
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The acting background freaked me out for a while, but I'm over it.
What action could you have seen behind the talk other than the policy statements that he's put out on the issues?
Sincerely, what actions have we seen from anyone running on the Republican side that worked in a positive manner? (I mean the Huckabee attack video on Romney that he pulled buy showed was an action, I suppose, but not one that I think worked for anyone.)
Isn't it pretty much all talk and posturing from all of them?
(And, obviously I'm biased as I admitted, but it seems to me that Thompson has been working harder to actually articulate real principals and policies than the other GOP dudes, like the whole 15 minute video from the day before yesterday vs. the 30 second ads of the others.)
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01-03-2008, 09:09 PM
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The caucus system is so interesting to me. I missed our state caucus in the last election because I was sick, but I'm going to go this year (Washington's are on Feb. 9). I'm encouraging my bf to go to his party's caucus, too. (I'm independent but lean democrat, and he's a republican).
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